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Student threatened eviction by Landlord
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When we visited the house my son wasnt with us, as we were going to within a few miles of his house we said we would drop off some of his stuff ready for when he moves in. That is when I phoned LL to tell him about the mess, it was so bad we brought my sons stuff back home with us.
From that landlords poor attitude, I think you might have further problems should any repairs need doing. If he can't even be bothered to clean his house then I dread to think what state of repair it is in. If the university is open, can you contact someone there and speak to them about this? They deal with problems like this all the time.Have asked my son about certificate, he will find out.
The gas safety certificate should be shown before the contract is signed. Check the dates and make sure it has been issued by a corgi registered engineer.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
OP's son is due to move in during the "middle of September" - it is only 5th today - plenty of time for the tenants to have meaningful discussions with the landlord about him cleaning the house .... are we all jumping the gun ?0
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Most students are 20+, people can have been working 5 years and have a couple of kiddies in tow at the same age, can be in Iraq handling weapons as squaddies, can be electricians rewiring your house, can be fully qualified nurses calculating your sick mother's drugs dosage, can be fully qualified housing officers.... the bad student landlords rely on lazy adult students not bothering to resolve their housing issues....MissMoneypenny wrote: »I don't agree with this at all ! The bad student landlords rely on the parents keeping out of it so they carry on with their sub standard housing. The students are there to study, not to have to tackle these professional bad student landlords.0 -
barnaby-bear wrote: »Most students are 20+, people can have been working 5 years and have a couple of kiddies in tow at the same age, can be in Iraq handling weapons as squaddies, can be electricians rewiring your house, can be fully qualified nurses calculating your sick mother's drugs dosage, can be fully qualified housing officers.... the bad student landlords rely on lazy adult students not bothering to resolve their housing issues....
Most undergraduates go to university at 18 and the norm is a 3 year degree (unless training for something like a doctor) and graduate at 21.
I suspect that quite a few 20+ with "a couple of kiddies in tow" are being looked after by the state and claiming something to help them. Squadies have officers and NCOs who tell them what to do. Until an electriacian is qualified (how many years is that?) they have people looking after them and checking their work.
I just looked about "qualified nurses" and it look like the NHS prefer to have degree level nurses for new entrants meaning they will not be a qualified nurse and "calculating your sick mother's drugs dosage" until age 21 at the earliest. Which is the same age most students graduate and go out into the world and take on responsibilties.
"It is intended that nursing will move to a degree level qualification leading to registration for new entrants to the profession. The earliest possible date this would happen would be Sept 2011 and the details are being worked through at the moment. Courses in 2009 and 2010 will run as planned with no structural changes"
http://www.nhscareers.nhs.uk/details/Default.aspx?Id=1941RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
Do you honestly believe a 20 year old shouldn't be taking control of their own housing - yeah ask friends/family for advice but really mum+dad phoning up?MissMoneypenny wrote: »Most undergraduates go to university at 18 and the norm is a 3 year degree (unless training for something like a doctor), so they graduate at 21.
I suspect that quite a few 20+ with "a couple of kiddies in tow" are they being looked after by the state and claiming something to help them. Squadies have officers and NCOs who tell them what to do. Until an electriacian is qualified (how many years is that?) they have people looking after them and checking their work.0 -
barnaby-bear wrote: »Do you honestly believe a 20 year old shouldn't be taking control of their own housing - yeah ask friends/family for advice but really mum+dad phoning up?
If they are 20 then they are in their final year of a 3 year degree and should be putting in for that final push for a good degree.
Do you honestly think believe that the type of landlord who hasn't bothered to clean his house, is going to clean it when asked? As I said before, if he can't be bothered to keep clean his house I doubt if he can be bothered to repair it either. Do bad landlords turn good, mid year?
There are good and bad landlords and the same goes for student landlords. Of the six landlords my two children had, only one was a bad landlord and he tried his best not to spend any money on repairs.The good landlords all had clean houses when the students arrived and fixed any repairs immediately.
Some councils operate an accredited landlord list to guide students to the better landlords.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
OP's son is due to move in during the "middle of September" - it is only 5th today - plenty of time for the tenants to have meaningful discussions with the landlord about him cleaning the house .... are we all jumping the gun ?
The opening post said the house was rented from July for full rent. The house should have been cleaned and ready for the first day of the tenancy.RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.0 -
www.shelter.org.uk
It is the LandLords responsibility to ensure "quiet enjoyment" of any property.
Nothing signed does not mean no agreement, if a verbal agreement has been come to he is liable to rule of law including the Tenancy Act.
I am amazed anyone would hand over money with no paperwork, receipt, witness if possible, details on receipt if possible, agreement signed up front if possible should all be pretty much standard.
As for cleaning, the LL should do it, but at the beginning of each new set of tenancies, the LL and the Tenant should take pictures, make student and LL sign pictures, if house is not identical to as when pictures were taken, expect deposit to be infringed upon, same applies should any damage occur etc. Consumables aside it is down to the Landlord, if it is a room by room tenancy the Landlord should provide non consumables like a vacuum cleaner/dustpan+brush/broom/duster/mop+bucket to keep on top of the basics, if an entire property then the onus is on the tenants, imo. Again if in doubt get a promise on paper before paying if not included in the agreement. Tenants should have a fixed rota system for cleaning and a joint household fund to pay for stuff like cleaning materials and toilet rolls etc.
I agree with the above sentiments with the son learning his own lessons, but pointing him in the right direction won't hurt, tell him tor read this thread and for him to make notes, check his notes, constructively criticise and make suggestions, tell him keep notes safe, to repeat: get a receipt, for everything, get any promise down on paper before agreeing to anything, email's are submittable in court, but hard evidence is hard to deny. If anything is broken/damaged/deteriorated before moving in, get it down on paper and signed by both parties before moving in and before anything has been paid, same applies for any promises by LL to fix/replace anything in the house.
What legal standing does the LL have to be charging July and Augusts rent by the way? Why is this even mentioned? This makes no sense to me. Was this LL on the list of LLs the University have? Have you talked to them?
Check the Shelter website, check the tenancy thread on this forum, Tenants have alot more rights than Landlords, the LL might need reminding of this, but if you want the place badly enough you might want to do so after everything is signed and official and agreed upon so that he doesn't shrug you off and find another tenant, more ignorant to their rights as a tenant.0 -
I would like to thank everyone for their contribution to the thread, whilst I agree with most of what is being said, I believe some on here have no experience of children at uni. Barnaby Bear..yes I do believe 20+ should take care of the majority things in their lives, but like most people they also need guidance, if you reread what I have said my son has already taken care of himself and practically ran a house of 7 students last year, the other 6 were previous gap years and thus roughly 12 months older. My son was not there when we took his stuff to the house on Wednesday he was working in a summer placement and umcontactable, I had the LL number, if you were in my shoes would you have just come home and told your son "ooh by the way, your house is awful" or would you have stood up for him and contacted the LL there and then?
ILW..what you on about?
MissMoneyPenny and others...great advice thank you.0
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