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House Prices to recover more strongly than expected..

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  • chucky
    chucky Posts: 15,170 Forumite
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    Were they?!?!

    I remember distinctly the question of "howcome there are a million homes on rightmove then" being asked by the bears everytime the lack of supply = houses up was used by the optimists.

    that's because the same houses will be on with multiple agents and counted more than once on Rightmove.
    you could take that number down by half or even more!
  • chucky
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    edited 4 September 2009 at 5:25PM
    How can it be relevant, there is hardly any sales compared to normal. For instance if there was 100 sales and 50 of them were FTB'rs then it would be 50%, and sound great, until you looked at the figures, also there is this little nugget



    I've highlighted the interesting bit, what the hell does that mean ?, I can actively look at many things doesn't say I'll buy jack.

    just to disagree for a change - you're not totally right. ;)

    there has always been quite a close correlation between mortgage approvals and buyer enquiries.

    however, since 2007 things have been a little bit different due to the lack of mortgage funding. i think this years mortgage approvals volumes are telling a different story that many don't like...

    Mortgage_approvals_jan_08.jpg
  • chucky wrote: »
    that's because the same houses will be on with multiple agents and counted more than once on Rightmove.
    you could take that number down by half or even more!
    Not sure if the duplication is 50%+, but there certainty is some.

    When I look on rightmove, I see a max of around 30% duplication depending on which area I search.
  • mewbie_2
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    Not sure if the duplication is 50%+, but there certainty is some.

    When I look on rightmove, I see a max of around 30% duplication depending on which area I search.
    So 30% have failed to sell through a single agent. Shame.
  • chucky wrote: »
    just to disagree for a change - you're not totally right. ;)
    there has always been quite a close correlation between mortgage approvals and buyer enquiries.

    however, since 2007 things have been a little bit different due to the lack of mortgage funding. i think this years mortgage approvals volumes are telling a different story that many don't like...

    Mortgage_approvals_jan_08.jpg

    Look what happened to prices after the last time (2003) those two lines diverged like they just have.....

    Not good news for the bears.....
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • StevieJ
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    Interesting Chart.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • mewbie_2
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    Interesting Chart.
    Twin peaks?
  • StevieJ
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    mewbie wrote: »
    Twin peaks?

    It is the bulls equivalent to the bears grieving chart (except it is more relevanticon7.gif)
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    It is the bulls equivalent to the bears grieving chart (except it is more relevanticon7.gif)
    I just thought it looked like a couple of t1ts, which seemed quite appropriate given the contributors on this thread.
  • michaels
    michaels Posts: 29,546 Forumite
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    'cos of course there was a credit crunch last time as well?
    Look what happened to prices after the last time (2003) those two lines diverged like they just have.....

    Not good news for the bears.....
    I think....
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