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Wilsons Selling Up. The Lot. All 700 Houses.

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  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    Interesting - that had never occurred to me as a theory - if that was the case, there'd have to be an awful lot of (a) highly indebted, living-on-the-edge and (b) completely crooked, landlords about.

    For all my landlord-baiting, I'd like to think they're not all that bad.
  • mewbie_2
    mewbie_2 Posts: 6,058 Forumite
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    Don't confuse landlord with BTL landlord. Different beasts. BTL landlord thinks HPI is the route to a fortune. Trad. landlord makes money from letting. One of them is a numpty.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    edited 5 September 2009 at 3:57PM
    carolt wrote: »
    For all my landlord-baiting, I'd like to think they're not all that bad.

    I've had in the main, good landlords. What's certain is that there are times when, although I've always tried to be a good tenant, things have gone wrong (to err is human)- and I've put it right, similarly, my LLs have sometimes erred too, but I can live with that. Its the ''taking one for a ride'' or downright dishonesty that makes me uncomfortable. Although LL own the house, the home is someone elses. Its a difficult thing, and our standard shortterm tenancies do not favour families, longterm people who might be well suited to ''lifestyle'' of renting rather than owning and for whom small reduction in profit might save on LA fees and voids, and indeed, costs of repairs to LL.

    I think there are good and bad tenants too. The problem is, if LL were all good, tenancies were what I would see as fair, what would we do with all the bad tenants?
  • bo_drinker
    bo_drinker Posts: 3,924 Forumite
    I came in to this world with nothing and I've still got most of it left. :rolleyes:
  • carolt
    carolt Posts: 8,531 Forumite
    I've had in the main, good landlords. What's certain is that there are times when, although I've always tried to be a good tenant, things have gone wrong (to err is human)- and I've put it right, similarly, my LLs have sometimes erred too, but I can live with that. Its the ''taking one for a ride'' or downright dishonesty that makes me uncomfortable. Although LL own the house, the home is someone elses. Its a difficult thing, and our standard shortterm tenancies do not favour families, longterm people who might be well suited to ''lifestyle'' of renting rather than owning and for whom small reduction in profit might save on LA fees and voids, and indeed, costs of repairs to LL.

    I think there are good and bad tenants too. The problem is, if LL were all good, tenancies were what I would see as fair, what would we do with all the bad tenants?

    I've always wished wished we could marry the 2 - set up a tenants' register and a landlords' register, so all the good vetted ones could get each other, and the rubbish tenants would be left with the bad landlords....and vice versa...... :)
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    This is more like some of the landlords I've had:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efSmdKwAWCo&NR=1
  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    carolt wrote: »
    I've always wished wished we could marry the 2 - set up a tenants' register and a landlords' register, so all the good vetted ones could get each other, and the rubbish tenants would be left with the bad landlords....and vice versa...... :)

    Great idea.

    :T

    Anyone not wanting to play by the rules gets left with someone else not wanting to play by the rules. Seems like justice to me!
  • Here's a report from the horse's mouth, one of his tenants:
    i went to the Citizens Advice Bureau, who told me that my landlords (Mr and Mrs Wilson, actually) were known for this sort of behaviour - in fact, they had hundreds of complaints against them, but the CAB were unable to do anything

    http://dorsetloife.blogspot.com/2009/05/landlords-tenants-trouble.html

    Mind you, she sounds a bit chaotic in lifestyle choices.

    The thing I don't understand, is that if they had hundreds of complaints against them, was property in such shortage as affordable to buy or other options to rent.

    If I had a landlord like that, I'd be out of there in a shot.
    I'd even look (legally) into leaving immediately given the landlords could have broken the tenancy contract by not providing adequate heating or maintaining the property.

    If there was hundreds of complaints (and I'm not doubting there may be) was there such demand that they managed to keep filling the properties as tenants left or did the complaining tenants just put up with it
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
    :wall:
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Until the heating died at home.........7 yr old son, no heating, no water, 2 weeks before Christmas.........I told our Landlords (it was clearly in the lease that it was THEIR responsibilty to fix) and they were having none of it....copper emailed them..no good. They were having none of it......i went to the Citizens Advice Bureau, who told me that my landlords (Mr and Mrs Wilson, actually) were known for this sort of behaviour - in fact, they had hundreds of complaints against them, but the CAB were unable to do anything. At this point, I was having a nervous breakdown, there was mould growing on the walls and I had to boil the kettle to have a wash. I went to my GP - who told me - and these are his exact words........."you cant fight the Wilsons, they have too much money"

    RED RAG = BULL! By this time - and I remember this clear as day - it was xmas eve - and who was on the telly, but the rogue Landlords, the Wilsons, bragging about how they were about to become "Kents first Billionaire Landlords" I was !!!!ing wild (scuse my french) they were about to become BILLIONAIRES, yet they wouldnt fix my heating and they were sending me vile emails (if you cant afford to fix the heating, maybe you shouldnt be in one of our houses - you arent the sort of tenant we want and you would be better of renting a cheaper house - maybe a terraced one, nearer town.....) Im not joking - they were SICK, just SICK.

    Not much difference to Tesco's really! ;)
  • Pobby
    Pobby Posts: 5,438 Forumite
    Not much difference to Tesco's really! ;)

    Graham, I realised that those 2 individuals were not nice but how can they stoop so low?

    UK housing really does need sorting out. How many more landlords are there out there like the Wilsons?

    A further worry is the new wave landlords who have over extended themselves. If anything went wrong with their properties they couldn`t afford to put it right.

    Just how many of those have bought with yields of 5% or less. Loads I would have thought.
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