Problem with Work and child starting school

foxy-roxy

Glad you have sorted it out OP, must say though, i have no children...yet, and it all seems so stressful,:eek: i like to think i have an understanding boss, although she has 2 children herself and gets in for 9:05 as she lives nearby, but i live further away so i wouldn't be able to get in at that time.
(((((headache thinking about it all)))))))))

Think i'll stick with my dogs for now:p

Gingermama

Have you spoken to the Head teacher at your daughter's school about the situation? I had similar problems when my eldest started school and found out that I could drop my daughter off early inside the school (from 8:30am). The children who's parents have to dash to work stay in the school until 8:40 when the playground opens. At this point there is always a teacher at the school gate who stops the little ones escaping and lets in the other kids.

The other alternative is asking if there are any Mums in your daughter's class who might be able to help you, if you dropped your daughter around to theirs before school. I don't know how your school operates but at ours we have class reps who have the contact details for all the Mums in school. Perhaps they could put the feelers out for you.

Hope you manage to sort it x

blue_monkey_2

I am glad you got it sort OP it is the way forward, that then you can see her safely into school each day. It also takes a while for kids to settle into school when they start going full time, it is a huge change for them.

The school my son attends would not allow a child to be dropped off and left and I find it worrying that a child of 5 would be left by themselves outside the classroom, all kids have to be taken to the classroom door and parents are reminded in the newlestter that even dropping the kids off at school gate is not acceptable, they have to be accompanied to the playgroud and seen inside. Likewise children have to have someone to collect them. Someone would have to be responsible for that child wouldn't they? However, now lots of mums help each other out with kids now that they have been there a while.

I am not sure when it has to be done by but all schools will soon have to make provisions for children from 8am until 6pm. I am on the school council and they have talked about it and sent out questionaires to see who would be interested, I've tried to see if I can find something about it but can't, but the head said that it was law that ALL schools will have to provide for children from 8am to 6pm with breakfast and after school clubs soon, obviously incorporating the school day into this.

blue_monkey_2

Just had to share this, last year my kids were at a different school and my DS had to be taken to the morning nursery and DD had to be taken to church about 10 minutes down the road, the main school was closed.

I had left the school and while walking heard a car door slam and a mother had pulled up, from her driver seat she opened the door, told the kids to get out, dropped her 6 and 7 year old kids at the kerb and then they closed the door and she drove off. Only the school was actually closed. They could not get into school and their mother was nowhere around. Luckily the nursery was open so they took them in for a few hours until Church Service was over. The mother did not even notice the lack of people and cars outside the school at 8.45.

I have to wonder about some people.

foxy-roxy

blue_monkey wrote: »

Just had to share this, last year my kids were at a different school and my DS had to be taken to the morning nursery and DD had to be taken to church about 10 minutes down the road, the main school was closed.

I had left the school and while walking heard a car door slam and a mother had pulled up, from her driver seat she opened the door, told the kids to get out, dropped her 6 and 7 year old kids at the kerb and then they closed the door and she drove off. Only the school was actually closed. They could not get into school and their mother was nowhere around. Luckily the nursery was open so they took them in for a few hours until Church Service was over. The mother did not even notice the lack of people and cars outside the school at 8.45.

I have to wonder about some people.

They will probably always remember that as well, back in the 80's when i was at primary school me and my sister used to walk to school on our own, 10 mins down the road, then when she went to high school i walked on my own. It was no big deal back then, but now i think back and would be horrified if i saw a child of my age walking on there own.
Funny how times change, wonder what it will be like in another 20 years??

blue_monkey_2

I think it'll be the same as it is now tbh, it has just been the generation that has changed.

When I was at primary school not many people had cars and kids often walked themselves. I was talking to hubby about this just a few days back and I think it is the fact that people can move from one place to another so quickly these days. Most people own a car and you could buy a 'heap' that goes for a few hundred pounds, they could snatch a small child and be off before anyone notices - that makes people so wary of what could happen. 25 years ago everyone in the village used the bus!!

I guess that there have been so many high profile cases in the last 10 years, there have been lots of reports of people in cars hanging around schools or snatching children (even in the sleepy little village where I used to live it's happened), maybe people are more on guard. 25 years ago not everyone could afford a car or they would have one car and the parent out working would have that so there would not be so many people to look out for. In my group of friends there was just one girl I could think of who's parents both had cars - and they had cars because the parent worked. I've a car sitting outside and I never really use it.

I am not sure if that makes sesne but I hope you get the jist of what I am trying to say.

bestpud

I know you have sorted this with your boss now OP, but have you checked for certain that you cannot drop your child earlier?

I ask because dd's school have a teacher on duty from 8.35, although they don't start until 8.45 - it gives parents who start at 9 a chance to get into work on time.

If they don't do this, the how about suggesting it, or at least looking to see if there is a need?

Even if that doesn't come about, you may be able to work with the other parents who want the service and share it between you - as in look after each others children in the playground?

To the person who said it is ok to drop children early, the playground assistant is key to it all!

Schools will not allow it if there it nobody supervising - anything could happen and also they are not insured if there is not a member of staff on duty.

Not all schools offer this unfortunately.

LittleVoice

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But the employer does not have the leeway to do this. The WT regs state that must be given a 20 minute break away from the workface. Allowing the OP to only take 15 mins is a breech even though it may be by mutual agreement because this is a non negotiable right which must be given by law, whether the OP wants it or not.

Quote from the Directgov site

"Your employer must give you at least the rest breaks required by the Working Time Regulations."

It can not be used at the beginning or end of your shift so can not be used to cover starting 15 mins late

That site is not the law. It is guidance about what an employer must give in the sense of what they can't refuse to do.

Show me where in the WTRs it actually says an employee must take the break (or even that the employer must insist their employees take the break).

horse76

bestpud wrote: »

I know you have sorted this with your boss now OP, but have you checked for certain that you cannot drop your child earlier?

I ask because dd's school have a teacher on duty from 8.35, although they don't start until 8.45 - it gives parents who start at 9 a chance to get into work on time.

If they don't do this, the how about suggesting it, or at least looking to see if there is a need?

Even if that doesn't come about, you may be able to work with the other parents who want the service and share it between you - as in look after each others children in the playground?

To the person who said it is ok to drop children early, the playground assistant is key to it all!

Schools will not allow it if there it nobody supervising - anything could happen and also they are not insured if there is not a member of staff on duty.

Not all schools offer this unfortunately.

There only seems to be loads of parents waiting around outside the classroom, not noticed any staff outside. I only know one of the parents quite well, but she doesn't arrive until near 9am, so can't ask her if she could watch DD. Quite glad I've decided just to start later, i'll lose nearly £9 a week, but I'll just have to deal with it.

Blackpool_Saver

Really you want to start 30 mins later if they ask for 15 minutes before.
If it was me I would change to 9:15, I wonder if they will pay you from 9:30? lol.........

It always amuses me how men are simply said to be "oh he is not available he starts at 7:30" mmm, what would he do if you were not there?