Given up his job

Oeillade

My ex owes the CSA about £23,000 for his first daughter and they were taking 40% of his wages, my little one and I were getting 15% and his first daughter 25%.

He has now given up his job and says he is going self-employed to get out of paying the CSA. He says he will pay me the same as I was getting before but he has been known to say things that aren't exactly true, to put it mildly.

I suspect that he is doing the same job for the same company but on a self-employed basis instead of being employed.

Can he actually get away with this? Is this fraud or something?

The other problem is that the CSA have said they can put a charge on the house that my LO and I live in even though he isn't paying anything towards the mortgage and didn't put anything towards the deposit. He signed a declaration of intent saying that the money is mine. Will the CSA take any notice of this.

The house is on the market but no viewers yet!

Thanks

Blob

I think that this is a situation that is going to become more common due to teh situation the economy is in, and yes if his name is on the deeds of the house they can and will go for a charge on the house that you live in and then go for a forced sale so you wont even get the market price for the house!

They dont care that you and your child live in the property, they are only intrested in meeting targets. I know this is not helpful but it is the way it is.

Oeillade

Blob wrote: »

I think that this is a situation that is going to become more common due to teh situation the economy is in, and yes if his name is on the deeds of the house they can and will go for a charge on the house that you live in and then go for a forced sale so you wont even get the market price for the house!

They dont care that you and your child live in the property, they are only intrested in meeting targets. I know this is not helpful but it is the way it is.

That's what thought. At least they have to go through the courts to get a charge and I can put my case to the judge. This I could do without!

And the family courts think this man is a suitable person to co-parent a young child!

Thanks anyway, just hope I get a buyer before they do this.

DUTR

Oeillade wrote: »

That's what thought. At least they have to go through the courts to get a charge and I can put my case to the judge. This I could do without!

And the family courts think this man is a suitable person to co-parent a young child!

Thanks anyway, just hope I get a buyer before they do this.

He could do without that too, you put somebody's back against the wall and they will have to defend themself whichever way they see fit, he is a suitable person to co-parent a child, that is why you had a child with him.
40% of anybody's salary is too much, it would be acceptable if the children were starving or freezing to death, truth is they are not and the money is desired often (but not all the time) to 'keep up with the Jones'. Good luck with the way forward but I do feel you have to work with him as opposed against him otherwise there are going to be a lot of losers in this game and it wont necessarily be the NRP.

Oeillade

DUTR wrote: »

He could do without that too, you put somebody's back against the wall and they will have to defend themself whichever way they see fit, he is a suitable person to co-parent a child, that is why you had a child with him.
40% of anybody's salary is too much, it would be acceptable if the children were starving or freezing to death, truth is they are not and the money is desired often (but not all the time) to 'keep up with the Jones'. Good luck with the way forward but I do feel you have to work with him as opposed against him otherwise there are going to be a lot of losers in this game and it wont necessarily be the NRP.

I wish I could work with him, I arranged mediation but he only went to one session then refused to go to any more as it wasn't going to get us back together. Since then all I have had from him is verbal abuse and harrassment. This has been going on for 18 months now and I have had to pay off the arrears on the loan he left me with and it is me who will have to sort out the mess with his CSA arrears and go to court to save my investment in the house and my lo's future home not him, he wants me to lose the money and to break me financially. It will be lo who suffers in the end if he doesn't grow up and face his responsibilities. He just wants to spend his money on drinking, that's why we split up. Who needs a drunk passed out on the settee every night when you have a little baby in the house?

kinksfan

one of my friends believes her ex is going to use his self employed situation to reduce the payments to the mother of his two children because she has moved in with her new partner and he wants to reduce the payments paid to her and put the rest into savings account for the children....... does this sound feasible?

DUTR

kinksfan wrote: »

one of my friends believes her ex is going to use his self employed situation to reduce the payments to the mother of his two children because she has moved in with her new partner and he wants to reduce the payments paid to her and put the rest into savings account for the children....... does this sound feasible?

Why does this 'friend' not post herself? What if her ex was moving in with somebody? I bet she would want to maximise the payments so that he cannot move on, I'm sorry but some NRP's and PWCs are just pathetic!

woody01

kinksfan wrote: »

one of my friends believes her ex is going to use his self employed situation to reduce the payments to the mother of his two children because she has moved in with her new partner and he wants to reduce the payments paid to her and put the rest into savings account for the children....... does this sound feasible?

I dont think its allowed but it should be.

PlayingHardball

kinksfan wrote: »

one of my friends believes her ex is going to use his self employed situation to reduce the payments to the mother of his two children because she has moved in with her new partner and he wants to reduce the payments paid to her and put the rest into savings account for the children....... does this sound feasible?

No it does not. The children need the child support now, not stuffed away in a savings account. It isn't up to the NRP to decide how the PWC spends child support.

kelloggs36

If the case is through CSA then it will not be allowed - child support is the money for supporting the children, not for putting in a trust fund.

kinksfan

I suppose there are two questions here, the first relates to the morality of it, the NRP has been paying without interruption for 10 years to maintain the standard of living of his kids in the marital house obliging the ex only to have to work part time, now she has sold the house and moved in with a professional guy (who has his own house and kids) so the NRP is anxious that his contribution isn't being dissipated into the new general family economic system rather than being specifically for his kids. I don't know I have mixed feelings about it all, I have seen both sides of neglected mums and exploited NRP's, it is a bit of a minefield. Certanly, she doesn't need as much as she did because the mortgage and council tax etc have disappeared, but he still has a duty to his kids. He also thinks he won't be earning as much by the time the kids are due to go to university / get a deposit so the NRP is being more future focused. An interesting one. The second question is the NRP just bluffing about exploiting his position as self employed to reduce direct payments or is this a real possibility? Should she worry?