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  • ess0two
    ess0two Posts: 3,606 Forumite
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    mewbie wrote: »
    What did you decide in the end?

    50/50 at the mo,debating whether to hit the boozer for the 2nd half also.
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  • brixham
    brixham Posts: 208 Forumite
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    Dan: wrote: »
    House prices are rising in ALL regions of the UK.

    Check out the latest Land Registry release:
    http://www1.landregistry.gov.uk/assets/library/documents/hpi_0908.pdf

    According to your link my area is down -0.2 and look at poor old Merthyr !
  • brit1234
    brit1234 Posts: 5,385 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Why do you assume this?

    Basic calculations, probability and mortgage access.

    Now if I have a large deposit over six year, a good salary and can almost reach the cheapest property at a long stretch, then being told by estate agents that prices have bottomed I tend to disbelieve. I know from friends the only people who have been able to buy are 1 with shared ownership (no deposit), 1 with shared equity (no deposit), 1 with normal property with a £60,000 gift from parents and another £20,000 saved for a 1 bed.

    No first time buyer can get on with out a massive deposit, usely paid by parents or one of these government funded schemes.

    Its a bit of a no brainer that prices will fall back to normal, they are still way overvalued.
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  • Dan:_4
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    brixham wrote: »
    According to your link my area is down -0.2 and look at poor old Merthyr !

    But your region is rising.
  • Dan:_4
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    brit1234 wrote: »
    Basic calculations, probability and mortgage access.

    Now if I have a large deposit over six year, a good salary and can almost reach the cheapest property at a long stretch, then being told by estate agents that prices have bottomed I tend to disbelieve. I know from friends the only people who have been able to buy are 1 with shared ownership (no deposit), 1 with shared equity (no deposit), 1 with normal property with a £60,000 gift from parents and another £20,000 saved for a 1 bed.

    No first time buyer can get on with out a massive deposit, usely paid by parents or one of these government funded schemes.

    Just because a couple of your friends struggled to buy does not mean all FTBers are in the same position.

    It is not hard work a couple to save up a 10% deposit, and this is nothing new. Sure we had 100% mortgages, shared equity schemes etc prior to 2007 but do not assume EVERY buyer required such scheme in order to buy, the majority still saved a deposit.

    What do you think FTBers have been doing for the last two years while the market was crashing? Saving a deposit I would guess waiting for the right time to enter the market, it seems that time is now.

    brit1234 wrote: »
    Its a bit of a no brainer that prices will fall back to normal, they are still way overvalued.

    'Normal' is now set at 2007 levels. Sure it will take a good few years to get back there, but it will, and everyone knows it.

    Property is not overvalued.
  • brixham
    brixham Posts: 208 Forumite
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    Dan: wrote: »
    But your region is rising.

    Nope, just checked again and is -0.2 month and -13.7 annual.

    In our wisdom a few years ago we declared independance from Devon and created the republic of Torbay !
  • brit1234
    brit1234 Posts: 5,385 Forumite
    Dan: wrote: »
    Just because a couple of your friends struggled to buy does not mean all FTBers are in the same position.

    It is not hard work a couple to save up a 10% deposit, and this is nothing new. Sure we had 100% mortgages, shared equity schemes etc prior to 2007 but do not assume EVERY buyer required such scheme in order to buy, the majority still saved a deposit.

    What do you think FTBers have been doing for the last two years while the market was crashing? Saving a deposit I would guess waiting for the right time to enter the market, it seems that time is now.

    Please use some comon sense. I have about a 20% deposit on a good wage, now it is the lending multiples which put me out even getting to that bottom end property.

    It took me 6 years to save that deposit and costs, it can not be done overnight. I'm sure you are making up about the majority saving these 25% deposits.

    Yes there will be a few first time buyers on a higher wage maybe in the city, but in genral I have a higher wage than most.


    Dan: wrote: »
    'Normal' is now set at 2007 levels. Sure it will take a good few years to get back there, but it will, and everyone knows it.

    Property is not overvalued.

    Since when was 6-7 times normal salaries the historical average, this is either a joke or you are deluded. Go back and check your facts.
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  • shakerbaby
    shakerbaby Posts: 413 Forumite
    brixham wrote: »
    Nope, just checked again and is -0.2 month and -13.7 annual.

    In our wisdom a few years ago we declared independance from Devon and created the republic of Torbay !

    I think Dan knows where you live better than yourself. Maybe he's been visiting Mrs Brixham. :eek:
  • brixham
    brixham Posts: 208 Forumite
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    shakerbaby wrote: »
    I think Dan knows where you live better than yourself. Maybe he's been visiting Mrs Brixham. :eek:
    I am Mrs Brixham so if he has it passed me by ;)
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    I think FP was a little over pessemistic. I can see prices in 2014 being 5-10% below MAX, I can easily see nominal prices being level for a lot longer than he anticipates though. Another drop followed by stagnation.
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