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  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    kissjenn wrote: »
    At the risk of being horribly wrong I thought you were to use net not gross income and then deduct your council tax. To have £70k you need to earn around £100k - or has everyone else done it differently?

    Calc uses what you get in hand less your council tax.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    Maybe the person Hamish knows is in inner London. MP6 gets you £34k in inner London although only £30k elsewhere.

    Payscale for teachers in inner London for 2009 is £26,000 - £35,568 in inner London, £21,102 - £30,842 elsewhere.

    A post-threshold teacher (whatever that is) would easily make £35,000 or thereabouts.

    http://www.teachernet.gov.uk/docbank/index.cfm?id=14030
  • fc123
    fc123 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    Oooops I just realised I voted in the wrong place......can't go twice either ;-(
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    LydiaJ wrote: »
    Maybe the person Hamish knows is in inner London. MP6 gets you £34k in inner London although only £30k elsewhere.

    No, in Scotland. And from that chart it looks like they are on one of the upper pay scales.
    There are two scales for teachers - the main pay scale (MPS) and the upper pay scale (UPS). NQTs start at the bottom of the main pay scale and work their way up year after year. Once at the top and so long as performance is good they can make their way onto the upper pay scale.

    BTW, where they live, a 3 bed house can be had for 100K, and a flat for 50K.
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  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    So far, around 31% of people posting here are in the supposed top 10% of income.

    Not what you'd expect from a moneysaving site....:confused:
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  • nicko33
    nicko33 Posts: 1,125 Forumite
    I think the 90% bracket probably starts somewhere around 70K,
    A single income, single person home-owner grossing less than 47k, came in at 92%
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    You are determined to make yourself look foolish today.:rotfl:

    I said the average FTB loan never crossed 3.5 times income even at peak, and second loans were even lower.

    I was right. Again.

    You then try and bring in a stat that shows average house price to average income of all people, not just house buyers, and try to confuse the issue. It's irrelevant. I've already stated not all people can afford to buy a house, and many of those that do buy one for far less than the "average" price.

    Give it up, you're just embarrasing yourself now.


    No the stats provided in the excel table are titled:

    First Time Buyer Gross House Price to Earnings Ratios

    Hanish you are a complete loser you know that though dont you?

    UK First Time Buyer Gross House Price to Earnings Ratios:

    2009 Q2: 4.2 X
    1989 Q2 3.9 X

    They do teach you how to read in Scotland dont they?
  • LydiaJ
    LydiaJ Posts: 8,083 Forumite
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    So far, around 31% of people posting here are in the supposed top 10% of income.

    Not what you'd expect from a moneysaving site....:confused:

    We are self-selected for having internet access, and further self selected for choosing to spend time on a board that discusses the economy and house prices. I wouldn't expect us to be representative of the MSE site as a whole, still less representative of the population of the UK.
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  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    So far, around 31% of people posting here are in the supposed top 10% of income.

    Not what you'd expect from a moneysaving site....:confused:

    Actually, was completely as I expected. Those with money typically are better educated and have more sense. More income does not = less interest in saving in my experience.

    I think the percentages reveal exactly how screwed over us upper income types are.
  • mbga9pgf
    mbga9pgf Posts: 3,224 Forumite
    edited 22 August 2009 at 3:16PM
    No, in Scotland. And from that chart it looks like they are on one of the upper pay scales.


    So in other words, has as an absolute minimum, 12 years teaching experience. Those pay scales are reviewed annually. Hardly your typical teacher hey Hamish?
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