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Calling all ESA Appeals Experts! Failed medical

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  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    cit_k wrote: »
    But on the other hand, the DWP are hardly likely to renew the contract with ATOS if the government targets of so many failing are not met....

    They are more likely to lose the contract if there are too many compaints so in fact more people pass than should.
  • Garry_Anderson
    Garry_Anderson Posts: 11,896 Forumite
    healy wrote: »
    The Doctors/Nurses do not get paid for failing people, they get a flat rate fee per medical whether the claimant passes or fails.

    ATOS and 'medical experts' get their contract renewed on the basis of helping DWP to reach targets.

    Quote: 11. July 2006 - The government target of a one million reduction in the number of people on Incapacity Benefit (IB) within 10 years may be far too ambitious, according to an independent report.

    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/07/11/18814.aspx
  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    ATOS and 'medical experts' get their contract renewed on the basis of helping DWP to reach targets.

    Quote: 11. July 2006 - The government target of a one million reduction in the number of people on Incapacity Benefit (IB) within 10 years may be far too ambitious, according to an independent report.

    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/07/11/18814.aspx
    Wow, that's never been posted before:rolleyes:
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    ATOS and 'medical experts' get their contract renewed on the basis of helping DWP to reach targets.

    Quote: 11. July 2006 - The government target of a one million reduction in the number of people on Incapacity Benefit (IB) within 10 years may be far too ambitious, according to an independent report.

    http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/07/11/18814.aspx

    That is not true and that tired old link you have posted numerous times does not prove your theory.
  • Garry_Anderson
    Garry_Anderson Posts: 11,896 Forumite
    healy wrote: »
    That is not true and that tired old link you have posted numerous times does not prove your theory.

    You think that the DWP's aims and targets play no part in awarding the contract to ATOS - clearly all firms have them foremost in mind - why should DWP be different.
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    edited 20 August 2009 at 11:57PM
    You think that the DWP's aims and targets play no part in awarding the contract to ATOS - clearly all firms have them foremost in mind - why should DWP be different.

    Show me some proof and I would believe you, as you have none I think you are wrong.

    There have been Doctors who have complained about having to pass too many claimants so complaints are avoided, this disproves your theory.

    Contracts are usually given to the cheapest bidder, nothing to do with targets.
  • I_luv_cats
    I_luv_cats Posts: 14,453 Forumite
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    This "Atos" computer medical system has been complained of before and highlighted in my CAB appeal submission last year.

    The CAB did mention something around Social Security commissionaires concern/case/???

    I was lucky to have stumbled across a person that could help me.
  • Garry_Anderson
    Garry_Anderson Posts: 11,896 Forumite
    healy wrote: »
    Show me some proof and I would believe you, as you have none I think you are wrong.

    There have been Doctors who have complained about having to pass too many claimants so complaints are avoided, this disproves your theory.

    Contracts are usually given to the cheapest bidder, nothing to do with targets.
    Wrong - no surprise - look yourself e.g. "In awarding contracts, there are two options: lowest price or the most economically advantageous tender. The latter is equivalent to the Government’s value for money objective and should be the option chosen."
  • healy
    healy Posts: 5,292 Forumite
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    Wrong - no surprise - look yourself e.g. "In awarding contracts, there are two options: lowest price or the most economically advantageous tender. The latter is equivalent to the Government’s value for money objective and should be the option chosen."

    As always you are wrong, you have no proof. What you have said said does not refer to failing more people or targets.

    I think people must be getting sick of you messing up their threads with the same old rubbish.
  • NASA_2
    NASA_2 Posts: 5,571 Forumite
    healy wrote: »
    As always you are wrong, you have no proof. What you have said said does not refer to failing more people or targets.

    I think people must be getting sick of you messing up their threads with the same old rubbish.
    The guy quotes himself in his signature - its not exactly the sign of someone with modest impressions of himself - you should know by now that what Gary says is FACT!!!:p
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