GDP Q2 Increases in Germany & France

julieq

Rubbish, they are important base data for forecasting all sorts of things so they're hardly likely to be fiddled. It's not done as a PR exercise.

nearlynew

julieq wrote: »

. It's not done as a PR exercise.

No.

Not much.

:rolleyes:

chopperharris

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Not all car sales are linked to the scrappage scheme.

Take a look at unit sales on the attached link.

http://www.marketingmagazine.co.uk/news/918268/Top-scrapheap-Kia-Hyundai-benefit-car-scrappage-incentive-scheme/



The European manufacturers are still suffering.

I agree they are , but in the case of "ze germans" helped by their own car scrappage scheme as they mostly bought german cars....we however bought the product of puppy munchers...sorry if I offended but its not racist if its true.

I wonder how many of them were also mobility cars?

I have driven kia and hyundai , I dont rate them other than on price.I once was in a dealership and enquired about the price discrepancy of the sonata , and it also being a shared car with kia....guy said well your paying more for the hyundai badge!!!!!!!.Fine for pensioners , those on benefits , and you dont need to worry about them being modified by boy racers...well outside korea/japan.

It might sound like I am banging the wok instead of a drum when it comes to china cars , but they are the next big thing.So will be india if it gets its finger out instead of mr tata pleading skint and wanting HMG handouts.Gone are the days of china clones of eu maker models for the big 4 chinese makers , the likes of lifan (known for cheap ebay bikes) are raising money by ipo to take them on in a new direction ....and looking inside the vaccum created by the big boys

A particularly good read is the chinese car times , imo theres 2 generations overall difference in vehicles now between the chinese and the europeans ,yet only 1 with the americans and approaching the likes of the koreans.One thing thats interesting is the roewe , pronounced rover , and the remarking of the rover 75 .... which was rovers xf if a little too late to rescue it.The 75 was/is a great car , rover of old if you will , when it could stand side by side with jaguar.

The press here ignores the china car biz , unless its to comment in cloning a european marque.ITs a big mistake , pride comes before a fall , much like cark makers in the US thinking trucks sales will go on forever the europeans dont think theres much of a threat from east as long as they are selling their own stuff there....how wrong they are.

julieq

nearlynew wrote: »

No.

Not much.

:rolleyes:

Not at all. The situation in the economy is bad enough, you don't need delusional paranoia on top.

GDP figures are derived from hard data and the methodology to derive them is published. They are used by government and industry to inform investment decisions. They are not created as a PR exercise.

nearlynew

If you say so.

tomterm8

nearlynew wrote: »

GDP figures are produced by governments.

So, by definition, they are fiddled and cannot be taken seriously.

If that was true, then why would the labour government print GDP figures that show they created the worst recession since the 1960's?

Thrugelmir

tomterm8 wrote: »

If that was true, then why would the labour government print GDP figures that show they created the worst recession since the 1960's?

Its actualy far worse than we've been told. :rolleyes: