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SOA's

I have done our joint SOA (previously posted on here so ok with figs etc) but am trying to split it for each of us. Am i right in thinking the surplus that i arrived at on the joint SOA is the same as the surplus on each of our individual one's?

Am worried that OR will look and think we have £500 EACH rather than between us!
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  • tigerfeet2006
    tigerfeet2006 Posts: 14,030 Forumite
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    Put up the individual SoA's and some one will check them over for you.
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  • wayforward_2
    wayforward_2 Posts: 285 Forumite
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    edited 11 August 2009 at 9:42PM
    Grrr - have it in excel spreadsheet and it won't post on here!
  • tigerfeet2006
    tigerfeet2006 Posts: 14,030 Forumite
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    Put both your SoA's up, yours and your OH's.

    You need to press the format to MSE button.
    BSCno.87
    The only stupid question is an unasked one
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  • wayforward_2
    wayforward_2 Posts: 285 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts
    edited 11 August 2009 at 9:56PM
    This is mine
    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet


    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 2
    Number of cars owned.................... 1

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 1500
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 1765
    Benefits................................ 132
    Other income............................ 1105 - rental from bungalow
    Total monthly income.................... 4502


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 1920
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 176
    Electricity............................. 44
    Gas..................................... 107
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 48
    Telephone (land line)................... 60
    Mobile phone............................ 40 - childrens
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 5 - school required
    Groceries etc. ......................... 600
    Clothing................................ 120
    Petrol/diesel........................... 150
    Road tax................................ 16
    Car Insurance........................... 47
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 50
    Car parking............................. 12
    Other travel............................ 60 - children's train
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 160 - activites & lunches
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 30
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 20
    Buildings insurance..................... 22
    Contents insurance...................... 35
    Life assurance ......................... 14
    Other insurance......................... 33 - Gas Homecare
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 20 - leaving in for a try
    Haircuts................................ 25
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 80
    Emergency fund.......................... 20 - leaving in for a try
    Total monthly expenses.................. 3926



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 4,502
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 3,926
    Available for debt repayments........... 576
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 0
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 576



    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using Firefox browser.
  • This is OH

    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 2
    Number of cars owned.................... 1

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 2100
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 1364
    Benefits................................ 132
    Other income............................ 1105
    Total monthly income.................... 4701


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 1920
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 176
    Electricity............................. 44
    Gas..................................... 107
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 48
    Telephone (land line)................... 60
    Mobile phone............................ 40
    TV Licence.............................. 12
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 5
    Groceries etc. ......................... 600
    Clothing................................ 120
    Petrol/diesel........................... 50
    Road tax................................ 16
    Car Insurance........................... 47
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 50
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 385
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 160
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 30
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 20
    Buildings insurance..................... 22
    Contents insurance...................... 35
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 33
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 20
    Haircuts................................ 25
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 80
    Emergency fund.......................... 20
    Total monthly expenses.................. 4125


    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 4,701
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 4,125
    Available for debt repayments........... 576
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 0
    Amount left after debt repayments....... 576



    Created using the SOA calculator at www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using Firefox browser.
  • debtinfo
    debtinfo Posts: 7,012 Forumite
    Hi wayforward, the thing that shouts out to me immeadiatly is the rent from the bungalow. Presuming that this is a property you let out then as soon as you both go bankrupt you will not be able to collect the rent anymore. Is it a buy to let mortgage or a residential
    Hi, im Debtinfo, i am an ex insolvency examiner and over the years have personally dealt with thousands of bankruptcy cases.
    Please note that any views i put forth are not those of my former employer The Insolvency Service and do not constitute professional advice, you should always seek professional advice before entering insolvency proceedings.
  • It's a residential mortgage - why wouldn't we be able to collect the rent anymore? I have asked for them to change the standing order to our new co-op accounts. Also if necessary i can have the rent paid into and the mortgage paid from my parents account - they are currently paying the extra £130 subsidy on the place and will do for the foreseeable future. I have written a paragraph for the OR stating our case for keeping the bungalow - currently it is in £30k negative equity (good buy huh?) and will only reduce the dividend to creditors if we are forced to sell it.
  • debtinfo
    debtinfo Posts: 7,012 Forumite
    Hi sorry to be the bearer of bad news but when you are made bankrupt you will not be able to collect the rent as your beneficial interest transres to the OR. THis means that it is the OR's Assets and so he/she will collect the rent on it and will not pay the mortgage. As you can imagine the Mortgage company will not be happy about this and they can legally apoint a LPA(Law of Property Act) Receiver who can collect it for them directly from the tenant. This is what the OR actualy wants as the OR does not want to be a landlord with all the responsibilities that come with that. HOWEVER if it is not a Buy To Let Mortgage then a LPA receiver cannt be appointed and the OR will continue to collect the rent until it is repossessed or you buy back the interest by which time their will be lots of mortgage arrears
    Hi, im Debtinfo, i am an ex insolvency examiner and over the years have personally dealt with thousands of bankruptcy cases.
    Please note that any views i put forth are not those of my former employer The Insolvency Service and do not constitute professional advice, you should always seek professional advice before entering insolvency proceedings.
  • thank you for that - am a little confused as there was a poster on here (can't remember who) who was allowed to keep her rental property because the rent formed part of her income! As it is residential i assumed it would be the same as our property we live in and the BI would be offfered for £1 (there is no equity). I guess it's a wait and see!
  • peachyprice
    peachyprice Posts: 22,346 Forumite
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    The OR is not obliged to offer you the BI on any property that isn't your main residence. Some do, but strictly speaking they shouldn't.
    Accept your past without regret, handle your present with confidence and face your future without fear
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