Illegal parking sign

Jon_Whittaker

I received a PCN for parking in an area with the following sign.

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The lower half of the sign was applicable, and should conform to diagram 661.1 of the regulations for such signs, however it does not.

The regulations (on the dft.gov.uk site) show the blue "P" symbol should be left aligned, a right aligned variant is not permitted. Should I appeal the PCN?

staffie1

Based on your own argument that the sign would appear to be illegal...what do you think..?

Freddie_Snowbits

Did you mean this guide?

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roads/tss/workingdrawings/regulatoryp600series/611timelimitedparking3sheets.pdf

Then one suggest if you were a bus and you overstayed, ....

Jon_Whittaker

Yes, just like that. I was a car.

Im wondering whether the sign relates only to buses, meaning can cars park here whenever?

staffie1

To me, if you're driving anything other than a bus, it means No Waiting, midnight to noon, except taxis.

Jon_Whittaker

staffie1 wrote: »

To me, if you're driving anything other than a bus, it means No Waiting, midnight to noon, except taxis.

I parked there at 7.30pm PCN was issued at 7.55pm.

So it was between noon and midnight (lower half of sign applicable)

Bowling_4_Gold

Jon_Whittaker wrote: »

I parked there at 7.30pm PCN was issued at 7.55pm.

So it was between noon and midnight (lower half of sign applicable)

You say you parked there, even though only buses may park there.

I think where the sign says, 'No waiting midnight-noon', gives a clue that between noon & midnight, a car may WAIT but not park there.

prowla

If there is a jobsworth throwing regulations at you, then why not just throw some back at them?

Jon_Whittaker

prowla wrote: »

If there is a jobsworth throwing regulations at you, then why not just throw some back at them?

That is my plan

I have printed the guide to how these signs should be designed, this one does not conform. Its all going recorded delivery.