We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

Debate House Prices


In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non MoneySaving matters are no longer permitted. This includes wider debates about general house prices, the economy and politics. As a result, we have taken the decision to keep this board permanently closed, but it remains viewable for users who may find some useful information in it. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

2 years

2

Comments

  • julieq
    julieq Posts: 2,603 Forumite
    If that is too antiquated, Erlich's 1968 "The population bomb" makes the following, chillingly prescient, prediction:

    "The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970's
    and 1980's hundreds of millions of people will starve
    to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    Jevon's classic "The Coal Question" made many similar prophecies.

    You may be able to find a copy in an antiquarian bookshop, it being written in 1865.

    You are an obviously intelligent person judging by many of your posts, however this kind of flippant remark does not give you kudos amongst your peers.
  • Cleaver
    Cleaver Posts: 6,989 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    ad9898 wrote: »
    You are an obviously intelligent person judging by many of your posts, however this kind of flippant remark does not give you kudos amongst your peers.

    True. But it does also show that a lot of people write a lot of books with predictions that turn out to be boll*cks.

    Just been looking at that dude's website and I agree with his opinion on a lot of things. Will check him out.
  • ad9898_3
    ad9898_3 Posts: 3,858 Forumite
    julieq wrote: »
    If that is too antiquated, Erlich's 1968 "The population bomb" makes the following, chillingly prescient, prediction:

    "The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970's
    and 1980's hundreds of millions of people will starve
    to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."

    That will probably come to pass as we struggle to produce crops without the natural gas based fertilizers that are required to sustain the current food output for our population, it was just predicted to early.
  • julieq
    julieq Posts: 2,603 Forumite
    Ad, fertilisers are not natural gas based. They happen at the moment to be synthesised using natural gas which is a convenient place to find hydrogen. There are other ways of doing it, including hydrolysis of water.

    Erlich also predicted life expectation of 42 in North America due to the use of pesticides incidentally.

    I'm sorry if you think I'm flippant, but this sort of doom mongering has been going on for centuries, hence pointing out that your prophecies are really nothing new. They have been around in written form since the Bible in fact. This sort of thing fulfills a psychological need, whereas in reality the more forward looking parts of humanity confronts problems and solves them.
  • julieq
    julieq Posts: 2,603 Forumite
    Which is of course because I'm right ;)
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    ad9898 wrote: »
    That will probably come to pass as we struggle to produce crops without the natural gas based fertilizers that are required to sustain the current food output for our population, it was just predicted to early.

    On a similar theme, from 1798 I present Thomas Malthus, he predicted starvation as result of population increases and the land not being able to sustain, he did not forsee the improvements in technology though.

    I lnow you like a good read, here is a freebie. icon7.gif

    http://www.esp.org/books/malthus/population/malthus.pdf
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Pobby wrote: »
    Cheers Am. Really cheered me up! PN, Bath is nicer!
    Bit pricier too ... I always think "what if", so "what if I don't get a job". I don't claim anything, so everything comes out of my diminishing income (and after that savings).

    I'll put it on the list though :)
    And look.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    julieq wrote: »
    Jevon's classic "The Coal Question" made many similar prophecies.

    You may be able to find a copy in an antiquarian bookshop, it being written in 1865.
    Free:
    http://oll.libertyfund.org/index.php?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Ftitle=317&Itemid=99999999
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    julieq wrote: »
    If that is too antiquated, Erlich's 1968 "The population bomb" makes the following, chillingly prescient, prediction:

    "The battle to feed all of humanity is over. In the 1970's
    and 1980's hundreds of millions of people will starve
    to death in spite of any crash programs embarked upon now."

    9 pages, The Population Bomb Revisited
    http://www.ejsd.org/docs/The_Population_Bomb_Revisited.pdf

    And

    Four Decades on, Are We Still Doomed?
    http://www.ejsd.org/docs/The_Population_Bomb_Four_Decades_On.pdf (140pp)
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.3K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 603.7K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.3K Life & Family
  • 261.2K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.