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My son has severe autism amd some other bits and bobs . he has an assinged social worker , he is 14 .
Any way she reckons that they have to legally see my son at home once a year and he is currently coming up for a review for respite care from the councill and the Indapendent reviewing officer has the same right .

Now all we have is the boy with sen , we are not as a family drug dealing or anything didgy like that and while recognising with special needs kids there is a degree of hoop jumping it seems a hoop to far ,
Is there some part of contact point or some ruling I'm not up on
I do not fancy a load of strangers in the house with out good reason over the holidays .
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  • I have 2 autistic sons & have been down to Social Services loads of times asking for help but they have never been interested whatsoever.

    My eldest son is just about to start yr 10 & Connexions are starting to get involved in able to help my son decide what he wants to do post GCSE.

    Id imagine that they are only trying to help & if putting up with their annual visit's helps your son then id be thankful for any help I could get.
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  • Savvy_Sue
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    If it would be easier for your son to be seen out of the house, then I'd say it was reasonable for you to make that request.

    I don't know about the legalities of it, but an annual review doesn't seem unreasonable.
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    edited 9 August 2009 at 10:04AM
    It is a legal requirement. IF you were a drug dealer / bad parent etc etc they would be in your home a lot more, weekly or daily even, without announcement regardless of what your plans where for the holidays.

    They need to asses your needs if they are providing you with a service (respite). By visiting in your home they can assess if you actually need it or if you need double what you are getting. Some people dont say if their situation gets worse or improves in the home, hence the visit.

    Hard call I know, feels like an intrusion but...anyone can say they need / want support and the council has to assess and provide for all of them. In order to make sure the right people are getting the right service you have to make allowances like for these vists.

    If we didnt it could mean the SSD saying 'sorry we can not help you more than 1 day a year instead of the 24 days we help now' reason they are helping all these other people (who may not really need help because they dont know as they didnt asses them)
  • devizes18193
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    _shel wrote: »
    It is a legal requirement. IF you were a drug dealer / bad parent etc etc they would be in your home a lot more, weekly or daily even.

    They need to asses your needs if they are providing you with a service (respite). By visiting in your home they can assess if you actually need it or if you need double what you are getting.

    Hard call I know, feels like an intrusion but...anyone can say they need / want support and the council has to assess and provide for all of them. In order to make sure the right people are getting the right service you have to make allowances like for these vists.

    If we didnt it could mean the SSD saying 'sorry we can not help you more than 1 day a year instead of the 24 days we help now' reason we are helping all these all other people (who may not really need help because we dont know we didnt asses them)

    we go through more hoops then i can list , Support wise the council is limited , ok cost cutting and all that . even though Wiltshire cc lost 8 million in Iceland . The child is seen by doctors teachers , people where he has the respite care and the reviews to date have always been done at the place of care ie school . we have offered to take the child to council office , Its one thing to say its a legal right to change the process but surley they would be able to quote chapter and verse under what ruling it has to be done .
    How many of you would like social workers etc in your place for a review of what is a fluke of genitcs in a child . He'es 14 and we are concerend about the changes in the rules not the fact of the reviews them self
  • we go through more hoops then i can list , Support wise the council is limited , ok cost cutting and all that . even though Wiltshire cc lost 8 million in Iceland . The child is seen by doctors teachers , people where he has the respite care and the reviews to date have always been done at the place of care ie school . we have offered to take the child to council office , Its one thing to say its a legal right to change the process but surley they would be able to quote chapter and verse under what ruling it has to be done .
    How many of you would like social workers etc in your place for a review of what is a fluke of genitcs in a child . He'es 14 and we are concerend about the changes in the rules not the fact of the reviews them self


    There has been no change of rules or process, if you have not been having these yearly reviews previously then your social worker / council have not been doing their job! CA 1989 & 2004 & ECM insits this is done.

    I can imagine the hoops, pain in the A** had to do the same when I was a kid and for my nephew he's 18 now so all that has stopped for us. So many different departments carrying out similar assesments in different locations! They should just do one, I agree with that so does the law encourage it but some councils dont do it :confused:
  • lellie
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    I have a social worker visit me weekly and that isn't because I'm a drug dealer or anything. It's because I have Bipolar disorder and she is my support worker.

    I think it's reasonable for them to come visit you and you may actually find it helpful.
  • Bethankim
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    I fail to see your annoyance,

    1 visit - it is a statutory obligation to make sure your child is getting the care package he needs and you are getting the support you need. Be thankful you have a service, there are many many families who do not meet the threshold for the disability teams. not because the teams dont see their need but because they cannot physically offer everyone a service.
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  • devizes18193
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    Bethankim wrote: »
    I fail to see your annoyance,

    1 visit - it is a statutory obligation to make sure your child is getting the care package he needs and you are getting the support you need. Be thankful you have a service, there are many many families who do not meet the threshold for the disability teams. not because the teams dont see their need but because they cannot physically offer everyone a service.
    so a social worker comes out finaly

    And yet strangely no one has been able to quote the statutory obligation in question , strange that I reckon its an urban myth . The support is lacking when you have work done there is no time frame for it do be done . This is because they made contacts with places like mediquip and did not bulid a time frame in. which makes a mockery of support play schemes which do not take proper care of your kid . In the last 5 years we have had to chase up places because they where not taking my child out without a crelling belt

    The support we have had is lacking in extreme and dare say thanks to the ressicion it will be worse , so social service 2 words that dont work in practice
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    so a social worker comes out finaly

    And yet strangely no one has been able to quote the statutory obligation in question , strange that I reckon its an urban myth . The support is lacking when you have work done there is no time frame for it do be done . This is because they made contacts with places like mediquip and did not bulid a time frame in. which makes a mockery of support play schemes which do not take proper care of your kid . In the last 5 years we have had to chase up places because they where not taking my child out without a crelling belt

    The support we have had is lacking in extreme and dare say thanks to the ressicion it will be worse , so social service 2 words that dont work in practice


    I believe I have already informed you which Acts the Satutory Duty to carry out these vists come under above.

    So, you want and receive a service but do not want to let the authorities carry out there legal obligations in order to provide you with that service.

    The service may well in you opinion be lacking, however at least you have one. So many people do not qualify due to not being 'disabled enough' having a very determined, energetic and healthy extended family or having too high an income.

    If you would rather not recieve the 'poor' service you get refuse the vist and tell them you would rather not have their involvement or your child in respite to give you an earned rest and I am sure they will happily oblige and have extra money to spend on some one who does need/want it.
  • lellie
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    I want to add that you seem to have some prejudice towards social services and what they do. Social workers don't just work with "problem families".

    It also won't be like they are a bunch of strangers. If the police wanted to visit your house after a burglary you'd let them in without question. Social workers are just other professionals doing their job.
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