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Gas Armoured Cabling Help [Electricians]

wapow
wapow Posts: 939 Forumite
edited 4 August 2009 at 8:29PM in Energy
Ok im having some major problems here.

Basically, i need a new cooker and dual fuel is the cooker we're going for. For this cooker we need a 40amp fuse box fitted.

My electric box in the cellar shows that there is a 40 amp cable somewhere, but two of the electricians i called cant find the wire for it. Theyre saying it is probably under the floorboards somewhere and finding it is gonna take a really really long time.

So they suggested two things -

1. Pull the wire from the circuit box and wire it on the INSIDE. Basically it has to go from the cellar, come out, along the wall, through the boiler cupboard and then into position near the cooker.

2. Pull the wire from the outside, armour cable it (6mm he said) and then drill a hole so it comes from outside to in. Also he will make a box on the outside, and will loop the wire from underneath the box because if he loops it from the top he doesnt want any rain getting into the box.

Problems -

1. If he does it from the inside, he can cover the wire with a white strip (wall is painted white) but im getting the feeling it will be unsightly...what do you think?

2. My old man is really throwing a fit, he doesnt want it to be out in the open running on the bottom of the house wall, he says that the cable is prone to damage and weathering and its exposed so someone can mess it up as its a live electric wire.

He also used the reasoning of the garage wire. He said the garage wires are always underground for the reason that they dont get damaged or weathered or are exposed.

Is he too old fashioned? Is my wire safe on the outside? Should i get them to dig it up and then put the wire underground?

Please advise! We've been without a cooker now for 2 weeks nearly and more and more problems are coming up.

The electrician quoted £160 to put a new box in the cellar, pull the cabling from the outside, armour cable it and then drill and put the box through the wall into my house.

Shall i get someone to go through the floorboards instead and spend their time looking for this cable?


NB: I DO have about 3 wires coming out of the wall where my cooker was, but the electrician said these wires are only for switches and are not the 40amp cable.

I also have i think two wires about 1 and a half meters above the other wires, and the electrician said this is for the extractor.

Comments

  • Alias_Omega
    Alias_Omega Posts: 7,915
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    Option 1,

    The running of the cable outside would be fine,and will be ok for many years to come. The cable is armoured and will be impact resistant. I guess the only way it could become an issue if you decide to break it apart from a JCB or something. These cables are common to be broken by builders when digging with JCB's etc.:)

    The cable will look like this (though colours different inside)

    electrics:sw6slash3.jpg


    The internal cables are covered by a plastic cover, then there is the steel braiding. Then the external sheath (i cant spell it).

    Impact safe, and the steel braid acts as an earth.

    Option 2,

    The running of the cable inside the house will be ok too, though i would recommend that it was run from start to finish alot either the top of the ceiling (not practical for you), or on top of the skirting board so out of sight & once painted it would not be visable. Give it a week and you would of forgotten about it. Though it depends on the size & thickness of your skirting board.

    The cable trunking would be M2, and i expect it too look like this.

    Cable-Trunking.jpg


    I have trunking all the way round my living room, in this M2 size. This houses all the speaker wires & the tv cables and we have no issues from it. Its just part of the room now.


    The overall choice is up too you though. Both are good choices.
  • Premier_2
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    If you are worried about possible damage/weathering to the cable outside, perhaps consider placing it in trunking like they do in garages.

    0048815914472296e817b90.jpg

    Probably wont need the expensive armoured cable then.
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  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    Premier wrote: »
    If you are worried about possible damage/weathering to the cable outside, perhaps consider placing it in trunking like they do in garages.



    Probably wont need the expensive armoured cable then.
    Doing threaded conduit will raise the price beyong the price of armoured.
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