If you were PM... where would you cut back?

JimmyTheWig

zygurat789 wrote: »

What I think you're trying to say, and, to be honest, I'm non too sure.
Is do British nationals do this.
Do you not read papers? and these are only the ones who are found out and prosecuted in a court where the media consider it newsworthy if nothing else has happened.

That's sort of what I'm saying. I'm saying that if illegal immigrants can do it then so can British people.

Are you saying yes they do?
In which case, what has it got to do with illegal immigrants?

harryhound

miss_no_money_pennies wrote: »

:j
Also watching a TV prog the other day about border control. Police arrested 5 yes 5 illegal immigrants within an hour, but they had to be released to attend court at a latter date - NOT ONE TURNED UP TO COURT. Meaning they are not paying taxes and sponging off our goverment. The government should deport them straight away then others who want to come to this country would soon get the message - NO SPONGERS!!!!!!:T

The bankrupt or just corrupt countries they come from don't want them back. Number one trick is to destroy any documentation the asylum seeker may have had.
So only a tiny proportion ever get deported.

Do you remember the time when Cuba emptied its jails and pushed off the ex cons in the direction of USA? Nice one Fidel.

I suppose we could fly a cargo plane along the boarder of the home country and, when the wind is blowing in the right direction, then tell them to jump.

I understand that there is a regular weekly train that takes the Zimbabweans back home from South Africa. but slow down a bit and they all jump off.

Being serious for a moment and talking to a teacher.
We spend a FORTUNE raising every single kid in this country. Are we getting value for money from most of our teenage celebrity wannabees? That said, how useful are illegal immigrants from a failed state with little education and no English?
Me thinks a huge investment in everyone will be needed and that is for those who have grown up in a non criminal culture.

zygurat789

purpleheather2810 wrote: »

I think it was the fact that you said "....back home in Bulgaria" that gave me a clue.

They're illegal immigrants from wherever. They have to lie and say they are from within the EU to get British Tax Credits for children (which they don't have - another lie) back home.

I know it's dificult to spot a scam which is why so many people are taken in by them but this is your third attempt

zygurat789

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

That's sort of what I'm saying. I'm saying that if illegal immigrants can do it then so can British people.

Are you saying yes they do?
In which case, what has it got to do with illegal immigrants?

Read the original post and try and keep up.:rolleyes:

JimmyTheWig

zygurat789 wrote: »

They're illegal immigrants from wherever. ...

No, from what you're saying they're illegal immigrants from wherever, or legal immigrants from wherever, or British citizens.
This scam has nothing to do with country of origin.

zygurat789

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

No, from what you're saying they're illegal immigrants from wherever, or legal immigrants from wherever, or British citizens.
This scam has nothing to do with country of origin.

Read the original post and try and keep up:rolleyes:

JimmyTheWig

zygurat789 wrote: »

Read the original post and try and keep up.:rolleyes:

The original post I replied to said that 5 illegal immigrants had gone missing to sponge off the British government. There's no evidence that they're sponging off the British government any more than you or I are.
If it's not an illegal immigrant scam, what's the point in linking these 5 with it?
Maybe they're living with friends / family who are legal and supporting them? Maybe they're working on the black market (not that that's a good thing, but what else are they supposed to do?) Maybe they've gone back home rather than face an inevitable deportation?

zygurat789

JimmyTheWig wrote: »

The original post I replied to said that 5 illegal immigrants had gone missing to sponge off the British government. There's no evidence that they're sponging off the British government any more than you or I are.
If it's not an illegal immigrant scam, what's the point in linking these 5 with it?
Maybe they're living with friends / family who are legal and supporting them? Maybe they're working on the black market (not that that's a good thing, but what else are they supposed to do?) Maybe they've gone back home rather than face an inevitable deportation?

I wish I lived in your world where everone is good and honest and truthful never does anything wrong and works hard. But reading the papers, talking to other people and see what others say here and elsewhere it is patently obvious to me that I don't. You're not convinced OK.

purpleheather2810

Read the papers? Oh dear, I'd rather not.

GIJane1774

How much of our hard earned money does our 'hard working' government GIVE AWAY to other countries? Our government gives millions and millions away in so called aide whilst also making it the easiest and most lucrative place to go if you're an immigrant. When I lost my job after many years of working hard and giving my money to the tax man, where was the help for me? I very nearly lost my home, had a bad credit rating for many years after and am still struggling to get myself sorted. Shouldn't our money be used to help our people first and foremost? And no I do not include all the benefit cheats and layabouts, I agree with the voucher idea below. Then they can only spend it on certain things. My mum is disabled, my dad a full time carer, do they get a decent amount of benefit? NO!!!! But there are plenty of people in better health than her that do. The system is wrong, it does not look after the people that pay into it and work hard and lead honest lives.