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Cabbage white butterfly - deter them?

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  • jjjme wrote: »
    I have the same exact problem. In the 5 years of living on the coast here in East Kent I have NEVER seen so many cabbage whites as I have this year now that I'm growing red cabbages. In fact I'm in the process of constructing a cover out of mosquito mesh panels from an old gazebo because I'm fed up with the amount of eggs (and now caterpillars)

    I'd also be interested to know whether soapy water is suitable for use on them as I really don't know what else to do!

    I'm in Kent too and & I just can't believe how many we've got. I thought I'd be clever & pick all the eggs & catterpillers off by hand.

    Needless to say the butterflies have won this particular battle.....I've given up now. Nets next year for sure!
    "Every time you feel yourself getting pulled into someone else's nonsense, tell yourself: Not my circus, not my monkeys." - Mark Borkowski.
  • jjjme
    jjjme Posts: 38 Forumite
    I'm refusing to admit defeat even though I have destroyed so many eggs yet still have a fair few caterpillars! I've decided that I'm going to give them a good going over then cover with very fine netting checking daily for any caterpillars that emerge. It seems that my Red Cabbages have gotten big enough now to be not suffering too much damage visibly so I MIGHT win this one lol

    Thanks everyone for confirming netting is the only pest control - I had hoped that wouldn't be the answer but hey hehe

    I'm in Kent too and & I just can't believe how many we've got. I thought I'd be clever & pick all the eggs & catterpillers off by hand.

    Needless to say the butterflies have won this particular battle.....I've given up now. Nets next year for sure!
  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,571 Forumite
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    Prevention is definitely the way to go but if things get really bad there's this stuff -
    https://www.allotment.org.uk/greenhouse/Garden_Tools/garden-849.html

    Has anyone tried it?
  • We had a similar problem and resolved it by using a fixed wired plastic mesh (netting) that covered the cabbage (which was being attacked). It works fine aslong as you properly pin it down to the ground otherwise they will get in under it. Some try to squeeze in but it's too fine, so I usualyl return home from work to see several of them stuck in it.
  • Bitsy_Beans
    Bitsy_Beans Posts: 9,640 Forumite
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    I use netting but because the netting is stretched the butterflies fly between the gaps although they do struggle to sit on the leaves. I've had some small caterpillars but not many so perhaps my netting is doing better than I thought.
    They haven't ravaged my crop so perhaps I am slightly winning the battle?
    I have a gift for enraging people, but if I ever bore you it'll be with a knife :D Louise Brooks
    All will be well in the end. If it's not well, it's not the end.
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  • RebekahR
    RebekahR Posts: 5,987 Forumite
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    Same issue here. Holes in cabbages everywhere. I've given up the fight. If I end up with any cabbages left i'll eat whats left. I've tried spraying, picking eggs and caterpillars off, and putting standard green netting over it. Think the netting must be too big holes and they get in that. Keep having to let the butterflies out.
  • angelavdavis
    angelavdavis Posts: 4,714 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    As I am currently trying out the square foot planting method, I am limited with the ability to net all the brassicas as well as I would like, so I have planted nasturtiums nearby - not 100% effective but the cabbage whites seem to like them more than the cabbages, so there aren't nearly as many caterpillars on them as are on the nasturtiums.
    :D Thanks to MSE, I am mortgage free!:D
  • Trishh_2
    Trishh_2 Posts: 275 Forumite
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    Fine netting is the only realistic way to protect brassica, best done as soon as you plant them out... Otherwise those lovely lace patterns start to appear all over your crops and well fed caterpillars are everywhere :rotfl:
    :beer:
  • Zazen999
    Zazen999 Posts: 6,183 Forumite
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    Try using ikea Lill Net curtains - about £3 for 2 of 3mx2m-ish squares. Weight down the sides with canes, bricks, milk cartons full of water etc. They drape really nicely with no holes and are cheap enough to double up for extra protection.
  • Trishh_2
    Trishh_2 Posts: 275 Forumite
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    :rotfl: I have an image of beautifully draped brassica beds now!
    Makes sense though!
    :beer:
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