Indicating on a roundabout

malkie76

There's absolutely no debate to be had here, the Highway Code is crystal-clear on the matter. (I'd post a link but I'm a new user, google HighwayCode and roundabout, and it'll take you to the following which includes a useful diagram)

HWC wrote:

Signals and position.


When taking the first exit to the left, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal left and approach in the left-hand lane
• keep to the left on the roundabout and continue signalling left to leave

When taking an exit to the right or going full circle, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• signal right and approach in the right-hand lane
• keep to the right on the roundabout until you need to change lanes to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise

• select the appropriate lane on approach to the roundabout
• you should not normally need to signal on approach
• stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
• signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want

When there are more than three lanes at the entrance to a roundabout, use the most appropriate lane on approach and through it.

janninew

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

I can assure you my driving is anything but sloppy and lacking in confidence, but my methods have kept me accident free for quite a time so I'll stick with them for the time being. But thanks for your concern:rolleyes:

Pray tell which is the bigger crime, signalling when not absolutely needed or not signalling because you didn't think the driver would "benefit", or plain simply you didn't see him??


And don't quite understand where you got that bold association from;)

Have to say i do agree with you! I was taught to always signal on a roundabout, you never know who might have sped up to a junction whilst you are going round, better to be safe than cause an accident!
Though i do agree that a signal is not always necessary at other times, for instance pulling off from a kerbside, it there are no cars or pedestrians to benefit, then no need to signal. In the information provided by other posters from the highway code it doesn't say you only have to indicate at a round about if there is somebody there! I take it to mean you should always signal at roundabouts.

nobblyned

BritRael wrote: »

As he is an advanced driver he informed me of his (correct) method;

1) Turning left, get in the left lane and indicate left - we agreed.
2) Going straight ahead, either lane, do not indicate - we disagreed.
3) Turning right - either lane, do not indicate - we disagreed.


Any thoughts/comments?

Aside from the 'straight ahead' debate...(OP you're wrong)

Anyone else think is a bit odd that an advanced driver suggests it is fine to turn right from the left hand lane without indicating?

Might he not have a little difficulty with those going straight on from the right hand lane without indicating which he also asserts (correctly) is ok?

Jakg

hundredk wrote: »

Driving like a robot and signalling when unnecessary means you are not reading road conditions or able to grasp the concept of when a signal is required. Do you also give way at a roundabout when there's no traffic there to avoid being sloppy?

You are ALWAYS meant to signal when turning onto/off a road, even if there are no cars around. You do NOT have to signal if there is no-one else there and you are going round an obstacle - in fact you get a minor for going it on your test, however I still do it in real life as the more you do it the more automatic it becomes.

BritRael wrote: »

Nobody thinks "he's going straight ahead because he's not indicating"

I do. If you go straight over you only indicate left as you pass the last exit before your exit.

bristol_pilot wrote: »

The Highway Code says signal left on approach if turning left, signal right on approach if turning right, no signal on approach if going straight on but signal left after the exit before the one you are going to take.

This.


Roundabouts are a great concept - if the people on them actually understand lane discipline or using indicators. Something most people round here fail at...

I indicate properly on every roundabout - I even indicate (properly, not right wth) going straight over a mini-roundabout because if you know where other cars are going it makes everything so much easier. Of course, while I could vent about people not indicating properly, i'd much rather vent about people who drive straight over mini-roundabouts. I've actually been UNDERTAKEN on a single-lane miniroundabout while going straight on by someone doing this!

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

No, you don't always have to indicate.

Like when?






I think this thread sums up perfectly why I think there should be compulsory retests.

prowla

GSXRCarlos wrote: »

once you're on the roundabout you DO NOT need to indicate to stay on it, you have right of way (give way lines dictate this on the junctions to the roundabout) you do however have to indicate to come off the round about

Except that you could be holding people up who want to come on but don't know if you are continuing around or not...

janninew

JAKG

I agree with everything you have said, and think retesting is the best way forward! Some people on here show that they have a poor understanding on how and when to indicate!

nobblyned

prowla wrote: »

Except that you could be holding people up who want top come on but don't know if you are continuing around or not...

They know that you are continuing on the roundabout, because you are not indicating to come off. Simples.

Not indicating left before your exit may lead people to be held up unnecssarily, but indicating right is no use to man nor beast. If I saw someone in the left hand lane indicating right I would just think they had left it on in error, and make no assumptions about their intentions.

kriss_boy

Pew_Pew_Pew_Lasers! wrote: »

No, you don't always have to indicate.

Give an example?

I work in transport and frequently liaise with traffic management regarding the implementation of traffic regulation orders. The maintenance of all existing signing and lining is also part of my remit.

This doesnt necessarly make me an expert on the highway code but im pretty confident I have a really good grasp of it.

I can guarantee you will fail your driving test if you think you dont always need to indicate on a roundabout.

Even when going straight on you need to indicate left to exit the roundabout.

Mark_Hewitt

Unless it's a mini roundabout, when realistically there is no time.

BritRael

nobblyned wrote: »

...Not indicating left before your exit may lead people to be held up unnecssarily, but indicating right is no use to man nor beast. If I saw someone in the left hand lane indicating right I would just think they had left it on in error, and make no assumptions about their intentions.

Better not tell the highway code that. They recommend it for turning right.