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MSE news 'House price crash is over'

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  • Dan:_4
    Dan:_4 Posts: 3,795 Forumite
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    brit1234 wrote: »
    Its far from over, the economic situation is horrendous. People buying now are in for a shock next year.

    Lending critera does not support prices and they are still highly overvalued. If you think that these 0.5 interest rates are a good thing for buying you are in for a shock.

    Hi Brit.

    When are you going to change your signature?

    Your prediction is well out mate.

    :beer:
  • Thermidor wrote: »
    House prices bottomed out end of last year. Then they stabilised (as predicted) and are now back on the up (as predicted).

    The crash never really happend - just few overprived properties were corrected. That's all.

    in a way sorta agree w this. massively reduced transaction numbers have postponed further falls. no one really selling or buying so price discovery somewhat awry. Looks to me more like the crash only partially happened - could be a while before the next 20% down imo
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  • chucky
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    brit1234 wrote: »
    Its far from over, the economic situation is horrendous. People buying now are in for a shock next year.

    Lending critera does not support prices and they are still highly overvalued. If you think that these 0.5 interest rates are a good thing for buying you are in for a shock.

    50% drop by Christmas 2009!!!! :rotfl:
  • LydiaJ
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    edited 31 July 2009 at 12:46PM
    The thing that bothers me is that MSE Guy doesn't seem to have understood the material he's writing about. He says
    Other commentators are also more cautious than Boulger, saying the lack of supply of properties could restrain house price growth.
    Lack of supply restrain HPI?????? In the very next paragraph he quotes the bloke from RICS as saying
    Rics believes the recent support for prices is to a large extent a sign of a lack of supply. This could remain an important crutch for the market in the near term.
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  • Alan_M_2
    Alan_M_2 Posts: 2,752 Forumite
    mike5678 wrote: »
    There are too many rich people and too many people with lots of capital and equity around to allow a full crash to happen. Any sniff of that happening and they would be snapped up by these people trying to make more money. I don't personally think that properties are that far out of the reach of normal people. I'm a FTB and managed to buy my first 2 bed flat for £180k this week. Put down a £30k deposit and I'm borrowing 3.75x salary. Fair enough this is in London, but up north lower salaries are reflected in much lower asking prices. People that can't afford a flat in their local area would appear to be spending too much on a frivolous lifestyle and not on the important things, like a roof over your head.

    Based on the above, your income is £40K. That puts you comfortably in to the top 10% earning percentile in UK salaries.

    Therefore 90% of employees in the UK earn a lot less than this...so whilst you are clearly in a comfortable position based on multiples. It is not representative of the country as a whole.

    Out of curiosity, at what rate did you agree the £150K mortgage?
  • IveSeenTheLight
    IveSeenTheLight Posts: 13,322 Forumite
    Alan_M wrote: »
    Based on the above, your income is £40K. That puts you comfortably in to the top 10% earning percentile in UK salaries.

    Therefore 90% of employees in the UK earn a lot less than this...so whilst you are clearly in a comfortable position based on multiples. It is not representative of the country as a whole.

    He clarified tis by saying asking prices were lower elsewhere than in London. :confused:
    :wall:
    What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
    Some men you just can't reach.
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  • buglawton
    buglawton Posts: 9,246 Forumite
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    We are in a rarefied environment - low housing stock, minute quantity of transactions, historically unprecedented low interest rates that cannot last.

    Anyone who thinks they can extrapolate the future of house prices from the bit of recent price rise news is braver than I!
  • ultra10
    ultra10 Posts: 379 Forumite
    buglawton wrote: »
    First rise in prices detected after a long time =

    HOUSE PRICE CRASH IS OVER, PRICES CAN ONLY NOW RISE AND RISE FOR EVERMORE!

    Well I am a FTB and i am not going to be scared into jumping onto the Property ladder yet ... This is nothing more than stupid ramping by people with a vested interest ..
  • wolvoman
    wolvoman Posts: 1,179 Forumite
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    Alan_M wrote: »
    Based on the above, your income is £40K. That puts you comfortably in to the top 10% earning percentile in UK salaries.

    Therefore 90% of employees in the UK earn a lot less than this...so whilst you are clearly in a comfortable position based on multiples. It is not representative of the country as a whole.

    Out of curiosity, at what rate did you agree the £150K mortgage?
    £40k in London is below average full time earnings is it not?
  • brit1234
    brit1234 Posts: 5,385 Forumite
    wolvoman wrote: »
    £40k in London is below average full time earnings is it not?

    Maybe if you take the mean average with all those city peoples wages. However the vast majority of Londons normal people are below £40K.;)

    These low interest rates are just delaying the problem, I wonder if someone wants it delayed to after the next election. House prices will return to normal values, the number of cash buyers are running out no matter now much the vested interest groups talk the market up.

    PS we have the banking yearly results next week, that will be a good indication of the way mortgage lending will go. Watch out for their savings and property loses.
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