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Rail Travel: Tips on Cheap Tickets

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  • mrs_lds
    mrs_lds Posts: 4,103 Forumite
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    Need to get a ticket for a friend tomorrow Leceister from liverpool street what is the cheapest option please
  • dzug1
    dzug1 Posts: 13,535 Forumite
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    mrs_lds wrote: »
    Need to get a ticket for a friend tomorrow Leceister from liverpool street what is the cheapest option please

    You are still in time to book a megatrain at £12.50

    Add £2 for a bus or £4 for the tube from Liverpool St to St Pancras.

    If the times are no good try National Express from Victoria Coach Station
  • yorkie2
    yorkie2 Posts: 1,595 Forumite
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    Your miles out.
    I may be miles out geographically but it will be the same principle surely!

    If you can't tell me where it was, can you please tell me the ticket type used?

    My guess is that someone was caught starting a Saver 'short' as you are not allowed to 'break' the outward portion of a Saver. Am I correct?

    If it is not that, it must be advance purchase.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but the only ticket types that do not permit break of journey are: Advance, and Saver (except the return portion of a Saver Return where break of journey is permitted).
  • yorkie2
    yorkie2 Posts: 1,595 Forumite
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    You are aware that purchasing a ticket priced at a lower price and getting off at a station earlier (which would have cost more) can result in you being charged the difference in price. If you get caught by Fraud they will Caution you and recommend you for prosecution for fare evasion. Its in the NCoC and Ticket Examiners Handbook.
    You are aware that getting off a station earlier (which would cost more) cannot result in you being charged the difference in price if it is valid for break of journey?

    I have looked in detail at the post you responded to by gner_ex and, in the examples he gives, the fares quoted do not disallow a break of journey.

    The NCoC explicitly states that all tickets allow you to stop your journey short UNLESS the conditions state that they do not allow a break of journey. As detailed in my post above, very few tickets have that condition barring a break of journey.
  • yorkie2 wrote: »
    You are aware that getting off a station earlier (which would cost more) cannot result in you being charged the difference in price if it is valid for break of journey?

    I have looked in detail at the post you responded to by gner_ex and, in the examples he gives, the fares quoted do not disallow a break of journey.

    The NCoC explicitly states that all tickets allow you to stop your journey short UNLESS the conditions state that they do not allow a break of journey. As detailed in my post above, very few tickets have that condition barring a break of journey.

    OK I was doing my job. If I was wrong in doing my job then why did the courts fine this person, and secondly how the hell did it even get that far if I was wrong?
    Oh and the person was travelling on a outward portion of a saver.
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  • nutty1
    nutty1 Posts: 2,204 Forumite
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    i have been checking for cheap tickets from wigan to exmouth 12 july returning 19th for 4 adults and 2 children. will they not be any now as i thought they came out about 12 weeks before
  • isasmurf
    isasmurf Posts: 1,998 Forumite
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    This break of journey question comes up time and again, so let's got through the tickets:

    Advance: None allowed
    Cheap day return: Out and Return
    Saver Return: Return portion only
    SuperSaver Return: Return portion only
    Network Awaybreak: Return portion only
    Off-peak Day travelcard: Out and Return
    Business Saver return: Return only
    Standard Day Return: Out and Return
    Standard Open Return: Out and Return
  • yorkie2
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    OK I was doing my job. If I was wrong in doing my job then why did the courts fine this person, and secondly how the hell did it even get that far if I was wrong?
    Very silly comment as I did not say you were "wrong", and you go on to say...
    Oh and the person was travelling on a outward portion of a saver.
    Aha! As I thought!

    In which case I am not a million miles out with my example. It's the most high profile one I can think of, but there are plenty of others out there.

    I do think it is totally immoral for that person to be fined, and I won't say what I think of you for getting someone fined for such a pernickety reason, especially as Savers won't exist from September so I am pretty sure the rule that disallows breaking the outward journey will no longer exist (they will be either Anytime or Off Peak, and there are other tickets that will come under both names which DO offer break of journey, and I can't see all of those preventing break of journey and they will need to harmonise it so they all do allow a break....) so at least you will be prevented from such actions in future.

    Anyway, while I look down on your rather unfortunate views and the way you speak to people like gner_ex who gave sound advice and you incorrectly made threats and accusations toward people taking the advice, unfortunately strictly speaking in the eyes of the law you were 'right' although totally morally wrong, to get those people fined on Savers. Especially the way you (or one of your accomplices) spied on them. Hopefully one day someone will spy on you to ensure you are not unfairly treating people, as the evidence on here suggests you might be.

    I look forward to September when it looks like you will not be able to persecute people in this way.
  • mrs_lds
    mrs_lds Posts: 4,103 Forumite
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    my american friend needs to now go to Wiltshire from London, anyone got any cheap fares they know of please

    thank you
  • yorkie2
    yorkie2 Posts: 1,595 Forumite
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    mrs_lds wrote: »
    my american friend needs to now go to Wiltshire from London, anyone got any cheap fares they know of please

    thank you
    Book as far in advance as possible[1] and you can get very cheap Advance fares.

    [1] Bookings are generally released approx 10-12 weeks in advance.
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