I want to apply INTERNALLY for DWP Jobs (EO position).

Kinx

Hello,

I will start working as an AO for the Department of Work and Pensions next month (Aug 2009) but I would like to apply for the EO position as an internal candidate once one becomes available in my branch as I have been told around 4 to 6 months into my employment other positions become available.

I would like to know what the application process for applying internally is? When applying for the AO position externally, I had to do the following:

1. Online Application
2. Numeracy/ Literacy Tests
3. Interview on competencies
4. Background Checks (CRB, references etc)
5. 2 months later was offered the position.

is the process the same if you are already working for DWP and applying internally or is the process different?

Anyone with answers please do get in touch.
Thank yoooooou!!!

gizmo111

Assuming it is the same set up as a local authority - you will have to apply for the job when advertised, you will be interviewed the same as all other candidates. If offered the position your refs will then be sought, you won't need another CRB usually if the current one you have is under a year old. You will be able to moved depts pretty quick.

Kinx

gizmo111 wrote: »

Assuming it is the same set up as a local authority - you will have to apply for the job when advertised, you will be interviewed the same as all other candidates. If offered the position your refs will then be sought, you won't need another CRB usually if the current one you have is under a year old. You will be able to moved depts pretty quick.

Thanks, that has cleared up a little confusion. So you think I will have to resubmit my references/contact details and so fourth.

busy_mom_2

When you apply for internal jobs it isn't the same as external.
Firsty they very seldom are at 'your branch' internal promotions are advertised as a district, never only one job, if you get promotion very seldom do they keep you in the same office.
The process in all competency based, usually 4 examples and you will have write in so many words how well you do them. Line manager gives brief say so then off form goes, next stage once sifted in interview which is you giving second examples of the competences.
Please don't think this is by any means easy, some people have tried for several years and never got through, others through first time.
Basically you need to be able to do an AO job at EO level and be very good at writing competencies and good at interviews.
You will have access to all internal job within the DWP but be prepared to move if you want that promotion.

No steps 1 - 5.
good luck:beer:

Kinx

busy_mom wrote: »

When you apply for internal jobs it isn't the same as external.
Firsty they very seldom are at 'your branch' internal promotions are advertised as a district, never only one job, if you get promotion very seldom do they keep you in the same office.
The process in all competency based, usually 4 examples and you will have write in so many words how well you do them. Line manager gives brief say so then off form goes, next stage once sifted in interview which is you giving second examples of the competences.
Please don't think this is by any means easy, some people have tried for several years and never got through, others through first time.
Basically you need to be able to do an AO job at EO level and be very good at writing competencies and good at interviews.
You will have access to all internal job within the DWP but be prepared to move if you want that promotion.

No steps 1 - 5.
good luck:beer:

Thanks for the reply thats has helped clear up some stuff also.

I'm happy to move branches thats not a problem for me, I originally wanted to apply for the EO job but missed the final date as I wasn't in the country, so I dont mind working as AO for now, considering i was redundant since beginning of March.

keep the info coming guys!

mommarat

busy_mom wrote: »

When you apply for internal jobs it isn't the same as external.
Firsty they very seldom are at 'your branch' internal promotions are advertised as a district, never only one job, if you get promotion very seldom do they keep you in the same office.
The process in all competency based, usually 4 examples and you will have write in so many words how well you do them. Line manager gives brief say so then off form goes, next stage once sifted in interview which is you giving second examples of the competences.
Please don't think this is by any means easy, some people have tried for several years and never got through, others through first time.
Basically you need to be able to do an AO job at EO level and be very good at writing competencies and good at interviews.
You will have access to all internal job within the DWP but be prepared to move if you want that promotion.

No steps 1 - 5.
good luck:beer:

This is true all internal and external vacancies are advertised on the RM website. They usually look more favourable on people who have finished their probation period but that doesn't stop you applying. As for a transfer you normally have to be in your current post for at least 12 months. You have to show that you can do over and above the job you are doing such as deputising or doing a project to be able to write down examples for your competancies, and for the line manager to use to praise you.

Kinx

mommarat wrote: »

This is true all internal and external vacancies are advertised on the RM website. They usually look more favourable on people who have finished their probation period but that doesn't stop you applying. As for a transfer you normally have to be in your current post for at least 12 months. You have to show that you can do over and above the job you are doing such as deputising or doing a project to be able to write down examples for your competancies, and for the line manager to use to praise you.

Its not so much a transfer I'm looking for, I'd like to apply to the EO position to sort of work up the employment ladder I suppose. My lucky 20 year old cousin is an EO (has only been working there for 6 months) and his manager has put him forward as a candidate for the HEO position... in the same branch. I dont mind having to move to a different branch if an EO position becomes available within the West Midlands region. They also seem to be emplying very regularily now due to the amount of people now signing on and how understaffed DWP were.

Hope my luck is on the up for this one. I doubt they will have any EO positions coming up for the next 4 to 6 months as they closed EO applications a couple of weeks or so ago in my region. I dont mind waiting though, I'm lucky to have a job after being 5 months unemployed!

busy_mom_2

Kinx wrote: »

Its not so much a transfer I'm looking for, I'd like to apply to the EO position to sort of work up the employment ladder I suppose. My lucky 20 year old cousin is an EO (has only been working there for 6 months) and his manager has put him forward as a candidate for the HEO position... in the same branch. I dont mind having to move to a different branch if an EO position becomes available within the West Midlands region. They also seem to be emplying very regularily now due to the amount of people now signing on and how understaffed DWP were.

Hope my luck is on the up for this one. I doubt they will have any EO positions coming up for the next 4 to 6 months as they closed EO applications a couple of weeks or so ago in my region. I dont mind waiting though, I'm lucky to have a job after being 5 months unemployed!

Little unsure about the' his manager is putting him forward'
Any grade can apply for HEO, all line managers do is sign to say yes you can do the job or no they can't. They do not have the upper hand or any influence in an internal promotion nore do they do a reference. They can help with the competency for.
I feel it may be far too soon for HEO for him as the will be lots of advisers with years of experience and some doing HEO roles on DD that will be applying with him but hey good luck, wish him well.:beer:

Kinx

busy_mom wrote: »

Little unsure about the' his manager is putting him forward'
Any grade can apply for HEO, all line managers do is sign to say yes you can do the job or no they can't. They do not have the upper hand or any influence in an internal promotion nore do they do a reference. They can help with the competency for.
I feel it may be far too soon for HEO for him as the will be lots of advisers with years of experience and some doing HEO roles on DD that will be applying with him but hey good luck, wish him well.:beer:

I've just spoken to him. he's not being put forwards has a HEO just yet but he's been put on a management programme which is open ended and then he's going to go forward with the HEO position whatever that means. but yeah forget him, he said he was just extremely lucky.

I need the help and info on the internal process here lol.

mommarat

Kinx wrote: »

Its not so much a transfer I'm looking for, I'd like to apply to the EO position to sort of work up the employment ladder I suppose. My lucky 20 year old cousin is an EO (has only been working there for 6 months) and his manager has put him forward as a candidate for the HEO position... in the same branch. I dont mind having to move to a different branch if an EO position becomes available within the West Midlands region. They also seem to be emplying very regularily now due to the amount of people now signing on and how understaffed DWP were.

Hope my luck is on the up for this one. I doubt they will have any EO positions coming up for the next 4 to 6 months as they closed EO applications a couple of weeks or so ago in my region. I dont mind waiting though, I'm lucky to have a job after being 5 months unemployed!

I start as an EO in the Black Country area the end of Aug and have been an AO for over 15 years - maybe I dont like to rush into things:rotfl:

Kinx

mommarat wrote: »

I start as an EO in the Black Country area the end of Aug and have been an AO for over 15 years - maybe I dont like to rush into things:rotfl:

Although you took 15 years thats great news! how did you go about applying? what was the internal process for applying for EO???

and Congratulations on the new position :beer: