Weekday, Evening and Weekend Calls

wygde3

I've read with great interest all teh various ways of saving lots by using Orchid V4 Dialler phones. To fully utilise the tips (and cheapest rates) you need to set up the routing table such that it uses the right chap providers at the right time of day. Martin's CallChecker helps a lot identifying these providers ...

Big question ... what is the definition of weekday, evening and weekend? I use Primus but can't find anywhere on their website their defintion of Evening and Weekend so don't know what times to use for the Orchid routing tables.

Can anyone help?

Heinz

Primus weekdays are 0800 to 1800 Monday to Friday (i.e. 'evenings' start at 1800 and end at 0800).

'Weekends' are 1800 Friday to 0800 Monday.

They are NOT the same at BT and Talk Talk's (their days start at 0600).

wygde3

Thanks, Heinz. When Martin's CallCheker gives the best for weekday, evening, weekend which definition is he using? If I take 0870 numbers the advice from the checker would seem to aim at italk247 for weekdays and BT for evenings and weekends. So which definition of times do i use? (Mind you I think that with the CW Client software from Orchid I only get to define one set of weekday, evening, weekend times ...)

icebergx

My CW Client doesn't let me set the end of the weekend to 07.59 on Monday. It says that 'weekend start time must be before endtime'.
Any Ideas how I can change this?
Also, could someone confirm which command needs to be selected to bar all 090 premium numbers?
Thanks.

coolsteel

2. Call Charges

When can I make daytime, evening and weekend calls?
• Daytime calls are between 8am and 6pm on weekdays.
• Evening calls are between 6pm and 8am weekdays.
• Weekend calls are between midnight on Fridays and midnight on Sundays

Taken from Primus website, as you can see weekends start @ midnight Friday and not 18:00 Friday, and ceases Midnight Sunday and not 08:00 Monday morning. as Heinz has stated.
Hope this helps
Coolsteel :cool:

Heinz

Reading that extract in the strictest sense of the words used would mean that calls between 18:00 and 23:59 on Fridays are charged at the daytime rate whereas, clearly, they're not because that period is within their definition of a weekday evening.

• Evening calls are between 6pm and 8am weekdays.

Similarly, it would also mean that calls between 00:01 and 08:00 on Mondays are charged at the daytime rate whereas, again, it's clear they're not because that period is outwith their definition of weekday daytime.

• Daytime calls are between 8am and 6pm on weekdays.

It's semantics really but, in effect, their weekends start at 18:00 Friday and end at 08:00 Monday for those on Primus Saver Option 2 CPS making free evening and weekend UK 01/02 calls.

coolsteel

Heinz wrote:

Reading that extract in the strictest sense of the words used would mean that calls between 18:00 and 23:59 on Fridays are charged at the daytime rate whereas, clearly, they're not because that period is within their definition of a weekday evening.Similarly, it would also mean that calls between 00:01 and 08:00 on Mondays are charged at the daytime rate whereas, again, it's clear they're not because that period is outwith their definition of weekday daytime.[/font]It's semantics really but, in effect, their weekends start at 18:00 Friday and end at 08:00 Monday for those on Primus Saver Option 2 CPS (free evening and weekend UK 01/02 calls).

The way I would take it Hienz is calls between 18:00 and Midnight Friday would come under Evenings, mobile call charges @ evenings are more expensive than weekend calls so if you are calling say a mobile within that time bracket thinking you are on the weekend tariff you could be unaware your call is indeed costing you more, as an example to dial the o2 network is about 3p cheaper per min @ weekends than @ evenings. You of course should be using an other carrier for your mobile calls anyway but not all people do this.
Coolsteel :cool:

Heinz

Do you know, I'd not even considered the calls to mobiles aspect of that because I'd never use Primus for them.

You're right, of course, there is a definite uncertainty (or is that a contradiction in terms?) regarding the definitions (now the semantics are getting ridiculous - too many definitions, definitely).

OK. Any Primus Saver Option 2 users considering making calls to mobiles, their rates are HERE. Find cheaper ways to make those calls on the MSE UK Callchecker.

Calls to UK 01/02 numbers are unaffected by this evening/weekend anomaly because the cost (nothing) is the same (I've amended the last sentence of post #6 above to make that a little clearer).

coolsteel

Heinz wrote:

Do you know, I'd not even considered the calls to mobiles aspect of that because I'd never use Primus for them.

You're right, of course, there is a definite uncertainty (or is that a contradiction in terms?) regarding the definitions (now the semantics is getting ridiculous - too many definitions, definitely).

OK. Any Primus Saver Option 2 users considering making calls to mobiles, their rates are HERE. Find cheaper ways to make those calls on the MSE UK Callchecker.

Calls to UK 01/02 numbers are unaffected by this evening/weekend anomaly because the cost (nothing) is the same (I've amended the last sentence of post #6 above to make that a little clearer).

Heinz your link to mobile rates doesn't seem to be working.
Coolsteel :cool:

Jon_S_4

Sorry to hijack this thread, but ive just signed up for primus and im altering my orchid settings, can i check if these are correct ?

Weekdays start 08.00 and end 17.59
weekends start 00.00 friday and end 23.59 sunday

thanks

coolsteel

Jon_S wrote:

Sorry to hijack this thread, but ive just signed up for primus and im altering my orchid settings, can i check if these are correct ?

Weekdays start 08.00 and end 17.59
weekends start 00.00 friday and end 23.59 sunday

thanks

Correct Jon, did you know there is a free bolt on called one penny mobile, this enables you to call any mobile network any time, 20p for 20 mins, no good for short calls but top value for a 20 min call!
Coolsteel :cool: