CSA how long does it take?

LizzieS_2

shell_542 wrote: »

To me it seems more sensible to ask a NRP with arrears to keep paying off the amount they can afford (the 15% or whatever) and then if any arrears are still owing after the child turns 16/17/18/19 etc then they continue making the payments directly to the child until the arrears are paid off. It might take years, but at least they are actually paying the child support off, the child gets what they are due and the NRP might not end up doing what the NRP in the OP has done and just stopped paying it all together.

The support is owed to the person who paid it at the time, ie pwc or secretary of state.

Perhaps some nrps should act more responsibly in the first place then they wouldn't have huge arrears (ie those who avoided paying).

shell_542

LizzieS wrote: »

The support is owed to the person who paid it at the time, ie pwc or secretary of state.

Perhaps some nrps should act more responsibly in the first place then they wouldn't have huge arrears (ie those who avoided paying).

Ok, I'm off to edit my signature in a minute to declare that "my comments about NRP's being treated unfairly is not aimed at those who have gone about avoiding their responsibilities in the first place".

Not all NRP's are in arrears due to their own errors or downright refusal to pay for their children.

Yes the support is owed to the PWC to go towards costs to do with the child, a contribution to their food, clothes, the bills paid to keep a roof over their head etc (note I say contribution, child support is not to pay all of these. I also read earlier that child support is also not supposed to go towards things like spending money for a child.) But I just don't see the point in saying, when a NRP cannot afford it "You have thousands of pounds of arrears, pay it in two years". Then everyone loses out because the NRP feels they have no choice but to quit their job because they don't have the money at the end of the month.

Wouldn't a PWC prefer to receive £500 over the next god knows how many years to clear the debt ... rather than the £0 she will get now. If the NRP in this case can afford the child support but is just not paying, then that's a different story and if the CSA do as they threaten, he will lose out in the long run.

irishgirl62

shell_542 wrote: »

Who's Snouty?

Thinking about it, to be asked to pay the basic £500 a month child support without including the arrears, must have meant he had a very high waged job (about £40,000 odd a year). If he could have afforded to pay out £800 a month in maintenance without any problems, would he really have up and left his ridiculously high paid (in my opinion) job that easily?

he is in a highly paid job...yes he would do it out of spite but long runs the fox.... he will regret it

Zara33

irishgirl62 wrote: »

any he can afford to take a benefit theif and her three kids on holiday three times a year and buy her a 25k merc? well my job is done here i am happy he resigned from work so therefore cant fund his lifestyle anymore

If you think your ex's new partner is a "benefit thief" why have you not reported her about it As your ex has resigned your kids will be the one's to suffer aswell kind of cutting your nose of to spite your face really is it not.

irishgirl62

Zara33 wrote: »

If you think your ex's new partner is a "benefit thief" why have you not reported her about it As your ex has resigned your kids will be the one's to suffer aswell kind of cutting your nose of to spite your face really is it not.

How can my kids suffer when they have had nothing off him for the last four years? and yes I have reported her along with many others, and yes i know for a fact she is on benefits as her her kids are in same school as mine and her kids get free school dinners still!

The way I look at it now, I am happy he resigned happy knowing that it is him who loses out our kids? they have asked their father to take them on a cheap holiday a weekend away somewhere here not abroad like he takes his partner and her kids away to...

He simply told our kids sorry I cant afford to do that! which reduced our kids to tears as they know he takes her three kids abraod three times a year like he used to do with them.

I have taken my kids abroad last year with the help of Credit union and our kids knows they will get away next year cos the loan be paid off and i get another one,

Zara33

irishgirl62 wrote: »

How can my kids suffer when they have had nothing off him for the last four years? and yes I have reported her along with many others, and yes i know for a fact she is on benefits as her her kids are in same school as mine and her kids get free school dinners still!

The way I look at it now, I am happy he resigned happy knowing that it is him who loses out our kids? they have asked their father to take them on a cheap holiday a weekend away somewhere here not abroad like he takes his partner and her kids away to...

He simply told our kids sorry I cant afford to do that! which reduced our kids to tears as they know he takes her three kids abraod three times a year like he used to do with them.

I have taken my kids abroad last year with the help of Credit union and our kids knows they will get away next year cos the loan be paid off and i get another one,

Your happy by all of this

woody01

The OP is quite obviously bitter and twisted (rightly or wrongly).

Maybe if she concentrates a little more on herself and children, and not so much on the ex's new family and GETTING REVENGE, life maybe a little nicer for her.

TBH....although the dad sounds an idiot, the mum is making herself out to be in a similar mould.

sophisoph

i disagree woody. its a horrible situation when you do everything in your power to do whats best for your children and put them first. but to see the dad swanning off with his 'new family' is awful. yes she probably is a bit bitter, but its hard no to be when the dad flat out lies and rubs it in their faces by taking the other kids everywhere.

Im sure the OP concentrates more than enough on her children but when nothing seems to cut it and you have nothing left at the end of each day how is it fair for THEIR father to get away scott free?? they had children TOGETHER, he has parental responsibilites like the rest of us and it winds me up when people see us women as the bitter ones when the pathetic fathers do nothing to help!

my son is 11 months old. his dad left when i was pregnant. he works all hours apparently and his mother looks after my son every other weekend. but neither of us get any money or help from him! he actually does NOTHING. even driving to collect him or answering his phone proves too difficult for him yet he can manage to maintain a relationship with his girlfriend.

its not about bitterness. its priorities! OUR son should come first.

its due to these 'fathers' that some of us rely on things like free school meals! as it happens im not entitled to anything as my partner 'earns too much' never mind the debts and his own child maintanance he pays regularly which leaves us with nothing!

its not right! this man deserves that amount of money taken from him! im sure his partners ex pays child maintainance too!

sorry for ranting but people dont seem to understand how hard it is physically/mentally/emotionally bringing up children on your own!

PlayingHardball

shell_542 wrote: »

I don't actually agree Woody. I agree that it's not hardly surprising he has handed his notice in because if he can't afford £800 a month, where is he supposed to get this money from? Pluck it from thin air?

But he does still owe that money if he's racked up the arrears through not fault but his own.

To me it seems more sensible to ask a NRP with arrears to keep paying off the amount they can afford (the 15% or whatever) and then if any arrears are still owing after the child turns 16/17/18/19 etc then they continue making the payments directly to the child until the arrears are paid off. It might take years, but at least they are actually paying the child support off, the child gets what they are due and the NRP might not end up doing what the NRP in the OP has done and just stopped paying it all together.

Arrears should always be paid to the parent, afterall, it is he/she who struggled bringing up children without child support. I agree that 2 years to pay off arrears is harsh in some cases. I would be happy to accept arrears beyond that time, if arrears were due me.

The good thing about this all for the OP is that the ex can run, but he cannot hide. Eventually he'll have to work again and he'll have even more arrears! Tut tut to him for thinking he could get away with it!

PlayingHardball

irishgirl62 wrote: »

How can my kids suffer when they have had nothing off him for the last four years? and yes I have reported her along with many others, and yes i know for a fact she is on benefits as her her kids are in same school as mine and her kids get free school dinners still!

The way I look at it now, I am happy he resigned happy knowing that it is him who loses out our kids? they have asked their father to take them on a cheap holiday a weekend away somewhere here not abroad like he takes his partner and her kids away to...

He simply told our kids sorry I cant afford to do that! which reduced our kids to tears as they know he takes her three kids abraod three times a year like he used to do with them.

I have taken my kids abroad last year with the help of Credit union and our kids knows they will get away next year cos the loan be paid off and i get another one,

I think Irishgirl sounds FAR from being bitter. It is wrong for the father to deny his own children anything and it must be extremely difficult for the children to see how he treats the new children in his life 'right under their noses' at school. What message does this give the kids? This type of behaviour from the father would surely impact on his biological children. (I've experenced a similar situation and can assure you it does have an emotional impact on the kids) So much so, eventually the OP children will turn their back on Dad, which is really sad but of his own doing.

I also admire Irishgirl for her pluck and ensuring her children don't do without (her own foreigh holiday & taking a loan out to do so, ensuring she can manage it and do it again next year!)

What kind of person is this father that would pack in a job to avoid helping to raise his children?