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Investors are losing confidence in Prime Minister Gordon Brown’s economy.

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  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    I think you are looking in the wrong direction. QE providing a magic bluuet to quickly kill the recession and bring back the good times was never going to happen, nor was this the reason given for pursuing the policy.

    QE to stop Britain sliding into the kind of pit that Germany, Spain, Ireland etc are in? Yes. Its not what did we gain as what did we avoid suffering.

    Tell these people they are also looking in the wrong direction then...

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1801549
  • Tell these people they are also looking in the wrong direction then...

    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1801549

    Why? I also have doubts over QE. Like I said, its not a magic bullet....
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    QE to stop Britain sliding into the kind of pit that Germany, Spain, Ireland etc are in? Yes. Its not what did we gain as what did we avoid suffering.

    !!!!!!!! - you don't know what you're talking about!!!

    Germany, Spain & Italy's problems are entirely different to the UK's and QE would do nothing to change that.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    The reason for the issue with wholesale funding is that the banks will in competition with the Government for the same overseas funds.

    Perhaps I'm being a bit thick but isn't this 'Crowding Out' of banks trying to borrow by Governments and then Governments lending money on to Banks mean that the Governments are solving a problem they created?
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Wookster wrote: »
    !!!!!!!! - you don't know what you're talking about!!!

    Germany, Spain & Italy's problems are entirely different to the UK's and QE would do nothing to change that.

    Hence directing to the thread ;)
  • Wookster wrote: »
    !!!!!!!! - you don't know what you're talking about!!!

    Germany, Spain & Italy's problems are entirely different to the UK's and QE would do nothing to change that.

    And yet the ECB - the central bank of Germany, Spain and Italy - is busy doing QE. You should ring them and tell them to stop.....
  • Thrugelmir
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    Generali wrote: »
    Perhaps I'm being a bit thick but isn't this 'Crowding Out' of banks trying to borrow by Governments and then Governments lending money on to Banks mean that the Governments are solving a problem they created?

    How is the Government going to lend to banks in the years to come ? QE in the short term has solved short term liquidity. The UK banks are global players. Wholesale deposits are required to fund their lending books and maintain capital ratios. Without it the banks will have to contract.
  • purch
    purch Posts: 9,865 Forumite
    You should ring them and tell them to stop.....

    Forumonics :rolleyes:
    'In nature, there are neither rewards nor punishments - there are Consequences.'
  • Wookster
    Wookster Posts: 3,795 Forumite
    And yet the ECB - the central bank of Germany, Spain and Italy - is busy doing QE. You should ring them and tell them to stop.....

    You really have your head somewhere the sun don't shine!

    Shall we look at the problems?

    Spain:
    Enormous property bubble which pales in comparison to the real problem: uncompetitive, unproductive economy; inflexible, rigid labour market & high government debt.

    Germany:
    Low internal demand, economy fuelled by external consumption (driven in turn by cheap credit)

    Italy:
    Similar to Spain, without the property bubble.

    How do you think QE is going to make things better???
  • Wookster wrote: »
    You really have your head somewhere the sun don't shine!

    Shall we look at the problems?

    Spain:
    Enormous property bubble which pales in comparison to the real problem: uncompetitive, unproductive economy; inflexible, rigid labour market & high government debt.

    Germany:
    Low internal demand, economy fuelled by external consumption (driven in turn by cheap credit)

    Italy:
    Similar to Spain, without the property bubble.

    How do you think QE is going to make things better???

    What I think about it is irrelevant - I'm not the one making statements about the effectiveness of QE in the Eurozone, you are. What do the ECB think about it - thats the question. As you apparently know better than they do then shouldn't you ring them?
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