Lottery ticket warning

nico26

Got this e mail as well. I always buy 4 weeks at a time I'm in Malaysia with hubby who's working here the now. Well if they say they can refuse to pay out they should be blocking foreign IP adresses on the site so I cannot enter. They dont refuse to take the money do they?
Ive won little amounts and been paid. I think it might make difference if it the jackpot though.

Be interesting to here the reply brousseau as i was just going to start doing it direct debit.

Might just wait until I get home and do it.

brousseau

I could not agree more. With e mail and internet so widely available on portable devices many people must buy their tickets or set up their DD on a foreign broadband service. Camelot must know the countries which state buying a "foreign" lottery ticket is illegal. I think if they take the money then the contract should be sealed regardless of where you may travel. Anyway, here is their reply, looks to me as though anyone who bought a ticket or set up a DD whilst abroad best start again. Ridiculous situation.

To be eligible to play by Direct Debit, all players must be aged 16 years or over and need to be a resident of the UK or Isle of Man when they register for an account and at all subsequent times when they play games through their account. Players would also need to confirm that they were within the Uk or Isle of Man at the time of making the application and they understand that if they move outside the UK or Isle of Man they will need to terminate their Direct Debit.

Direct Debit Players must also hold a UK or Isle of Man bank (or building society) account out of which the Direct Debit shall be made. Where debit card details have been supplied, the debit card details supplied must be those of a UK or Isle of Man debit card linked to a UK or Isle of Man bank (or building society) account in respect of which the Direct Debit Player is an authorised user. It is the players responsibility to notify Camelot of any change in their address.

nico26

Well mines is on for the next 4 weeks.I read the message after I put it on. Lets hope I dont win. Ive won on the euro and national lottery while Ive been here and been paid. Mind you just 3 numbers. Lets hope I dont win the jackpot.

Incapuppy

It would be interesting to see what stance Camelot (or whoever is running the lottery these days) would take in the event of a UK resident who bought their ticket whilst out of the country winning a large prize on the lottery.

Interestingly, I see no reference has been made to those that purchase their tickets online and pay as they play (rather than by direct debit).

I suppose the definition of UK resident needs clarifying - if you are on holiday or working temporarily overseas (or British Forces overseas for that matter) then surely you ought still to be classed as a UK resident?

nico26

Incapuppy wrote: »

It would be interesting to see what stance Camelot (or whoever is running the lottery these days) would take in the event of a UK resident who bought their ticket whilst out of the country winning a large prize on the lottery.

Interestingly, I see no reference has been made to those that purchase their tickets online and pay as they play (rather than by direct debit).

I suppose the definition of UK resident needs clarifying - if you are on holiday or working temporarily overseas (or British Forces overseas for that matter) then surely you ought still to be classed as a UK resident?

This is the one I got.

Important Account information - playing online while overseas

You may be planning to go abroad this summer: We would like to remind you that in countries outside of the UK and Isle of Man, local laws often prevent the sale or purchase of tickets for any overseas lottery. To protect players, the National Lottery Rules and Terms and Conditions prohibit people from playing online in any country where it is unlawful to do so. This also means that, under local laws, as well as National Lottery rules, we would not be able to pay out any prize in these circumstances.
We would therefore advise you to only buy your tickets online when you are actually located in the UK or Isle of Man. This also applies when playing by text and through Sky Active.
Things change, so it's a good idea to make sure your details are still up to date. Please remember, you need to be resident of the UK or Isle of Man at all times throughout the period of your online Direct Debit and when you play UK National Lottery Games through your Interactive Account.
We hope you continue to enjoy playing National Lottery games and would like to wish you the best of luck in the future.

peregolf_2

I got the warning as well and have been onto Camelot all week. Here are there replies. It is not good reading mind. I think we should start an online petition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Thank you for your email dated 15 July 2009.
I am sorry that you feel our previous responses have not fully answered your enquiries.
As Camelot has over four million registered players with different circumstances, it is the player’s responsibility to ensure they comply with the rules and terms and conditions – as you would with any policy
To play the National Lottery online, you must be a resident of the UK or Isle of Man. When players register to play National Lottery Games online, they agree to comply with the Games Rules and Terms and Conditions. If your circumstances change (for example, you move overseas), under the Rules you are required to inform us – just as you would, for example, notify your insurance company or bank.
It is also important to remember that in, many countries, it is unlawful for anyone to purchase a lottery ticket (and therefore be paid a prize) for any overseas lottery – including the UK National Lottery – which is not authorised there.
With nearly 200 countries in the world and because local laws can – and do – change, we are unable to offer advice to individual players about whether it is lawful to play in a specific country.
However, as the operator of the UK National Lottery, Camelot does not promote the UK National Lottery outside the UK or Isle of Man. For this reason, and because we don’t want anyone to miss out on a prize because they haven’t complied with local laws, we advise people that while travelling abroad they assume it is unlawful for them to buy a lottery ticket online for the UK National Lottery – and only to buy their tickets online while they are actually in the UK or Isle of Man.
If you are travelling overseas for a short period, you can purchase tickets in advance (eight weeks for Lotto, Lotto HotPicks and Thunderball, four weeks for EuroMillions and one week for Daily Play). Alternatively you can play the UK National Lottery with friends and colleagues as part of a syndicate whose Syndicate Manager is located and is playing in the UK. We provide a Syndicate Manager tool at

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for anyone wishing to set up a syndicate.
Finally, whilst I appreciate this may not be the outcome you desired, I hope the above has clarified the situation and if you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Yours sincerely
Sheryl Southall
National Lottery Customer Care Team

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Original Message

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Subject: Re: Response from The National Lottery

Sheryl,
I run a syndicate and am based in Gibraltar with H.M.Forces .My
account is registered at my UK address. I receive winnings ino this
account although these have been small amounts.
If i were to win the jackpot are you saying i would not be entitled
to receive the money if i turned up at the regional office with my
proof of i.d.?
If i were to purchase tickets from a post office in the UK every 4
weeks (max for euromillions i believe) would i be entitled to the
winnings that way?
Is a person from eg France allowed to purchase a ticket at the
air[port in UK and be eligible for the winnings even though they are
not UK tax payers. This would seem unfair if a UK tax payer in
Gibraltar is not entitled to claim winnings?
I would be pleased to hear your response on this. Some of my syndicate
are in the UK but i am the amanger of it.
kind regards

On 7/15/09, Camelot Customer Services
> Dear C
>
> Thank you for your email dated 11 July 2009.
>
> As you are aware, to be eligible to play The National Lottery interactively,
> a player must be a resident of the UK or Isle of Man when they register for
> an interactive account, and at all subsequent times when they play games
> through their interactive account. The player must be aged 16 years or over
> and have a debit card linked to a UK or Isle of Man bank or building
> society.
>
> It is also worth pointing out that Armed Forces personnel serving abroad who
> are not currently resident in the UK or Isle of Man can still play The
> National Lottery with friends and colleagues by forming a syndicate with a
> Syndicate Manager who is based in the UK.
>
> Camelot provides a Syndicate Manager tool for anyone wishing to set up a
> syndicate, which can be found by copying and pasting the following web
> address into your browser:
>
> We have received advice from the British Forces base in Cyprus stating that
> the Sovereign Base Area law is very closely aligned with, and in some cases
> identical to, the laws operating within the Republic of Cyprus. They have
> also informed us that they believe that Armed Forces personnel playing the
> UK National Lottery whilst based in Cyprus would contravene local legal
> agreements between the Cypriot and UK Governments.
>
> Yours sincerely
>
> Sheryl Southall
> National Lottery Customer Care Team
>
>
>

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Original Message

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>
> Date: 11 July 2009
> Subject: GENERAL ENQUIRY
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> I am a member of H.M.Forces.
> I am therefore resident in the UK for tax purposes on my annual tax return
> even when i am serving aboard.
> I am paid in sterling into my UK Bank Account each month.
> I am over 18 years of age.
> I own a property in the UK although it is rented out so i don't live in it.
>
> I have an online lottery account and want to know if this is still valid
> whilst i am serving overseas in Cyprus, Germany or Gibraltar. I play the
> euromillions each week online and any winnings are paid back into this
> internet account.
>
> If i were to win a prize above £5000 how would i claim the larger amount.?
> Would i need to use the original address when i set up the account (now
> rented out) or my bank account address which is now my Mother-in-laws.
>
> I am concerned that if i win a jackpot you may not pay me even though i meet
> all the criteria for bank accounts, resedency for tax etc.
>
> Can you please put my mind at rest before i seek further advice from the
> Armed Forces Minister and my Local Uk MP.
>
> With kind regards

bluesue62

I Live in Greece but have a British passport and bank account - why after having done the lottery from here for 3 years do they suddenly say it may be illegal and gow can I find out which countries you can do the UK lottery in?

dlV47mlm

I live in Germany and have played legally for over 5 years with a UK company who does lottery syndicates. The company buys all the tickets in the UK, collects the winnings and I get my share of winnings into my online bank account after each draw. I play in the UK lotto and in Euromillions. the company is www WinningLotteryTips .co .uk

mogadon

I recently tried to buy a ticket through my online account while I was on holiday, and I got a warning message pop up on the screen when I logged in saying I appeared to be trying to buy a ticket from outside the UK and that any ticket I bought may not be valid. I wasn't sure what it was all about, but I didn't bother buying one, just in case.

Mr_Lahey

Can i add i have bought scratch cards in the US and won a few $$ never more than maybe $5 and have never had a problem cashing them in. However i am led to believe that if you win a lot you can only claim it if you are a US citizen.

Can anyone clarify?