CSA Gross Income CM Scheme questions.

speedster

surreybased wrote: »

Just wondering where we can go to work out new calculations. It's worrying for us as we really don't have the disposable income to pay anymore.

i wouldn't panic just yet.

csa1 was supposed to be transferred to csa2 by 2007. 4 years past the "deadline" and there are still hundreds of thousands still on csa1. they've now given up cos the 700m computer cant handle it and never could.

thing is, the same computer is handling csa1-2-3, so i wouldn't hold your breath for the new systems start of 2011, cos it'll be at least 2020 before it's up and running.

DX2

speedster wrote: »

cos it'll be at least 2020 before it's up and running.

Very optimistic there :rotfl:

FBaby

whereas I don't agree that tax credits should be taken into account, I don't agree that if they are not taken into account, it is acceptable to get reduction for children who might not be those of the nrp. Surely parents are responsible for their own children before children of their partners??

The whole thing is ridiculous. My ex new partner has two children from a previous relationship, so my children will have to do with less so their dad can support her children. On the other side, if the child benefit cut comes into practice, I will lose my child benefits because my partner earns over the threshold. Surely it should be about what my ex partner and I earn and should have nothing to do with my or his partner's situation.

speedster

you wont lose your CB if YOU aren't earning over the threshold.

your partners wages are not included in your legibilty for CB.

shell_542

speedster wrote: »

you wont lose your CB if YOU aren't earning over the threshold.

your partners wages are not included in your legibilty for CB.

The child benefit proposals are for household income, not the biological parent's income. So if a step-parent earns over the threshold, then the household will lose the child benefit.

speedster

shell_542 wrote: »

The child benefit proposals are for household income, not the biological parent's income. So if a step-parent earns over the threshold, then the household will lose the child benefit.

no it aint.

it was on the news the other week, a woman was moaning cos she earnt 46k and was gonna lose her CB as it was in her name, yet next door or something, a couple both earnt 40k ish each but will get to keep CB although jointly on 80k ish.

it made me laugh, as if you're earning £900 per week, why the bloody hell are you worried about £20 or £30 quid a week??

shell_542

The threshold will be approx £45,000.

A couple, both earning £40,000 will keep all child benefit.

A single parent earning £45,000 will lose child benefit.

That was the proposal.

You told the PP that she will not lose her CB as her partner's income isn't taken into account for CB purposes, but you are incorrect because the proposals are that of any person in the household (single or couple) earns over the threshold, then the household will not receive CB. So a step-parent, ie. the PP's partner, could earn over the threshold and the biological parent earning under the threshold will lose the CB because partner's income WILL be taken into account. It will be household income, not biological parent's income.

speedster

shell_542 wrote: »

The threshold will be approx £45,000.

A couple, both earning £40,000 will keep all child benefit.

A single parent earning £45,000 will lose child benefit.

That was the proposal.

You told the PP that she will not lose her CB as her partner's income isn't taken into account for CB purposes, but you are incorrect because the proposals are that of any person in the household (single or couple) earns over the threshold, then the household will not receive CB. So a step-parent, ie. the PP's partner, could earn over the threshold and the biological parent earning under the threshold will lose the CB because partner's income WILL be taken into account. It will be household income, not biological parent's income.

my bad. :eek:

FBaby

The reality is that I don't think they have thought that far into it, just stating that 'From 2013, benefits will be removed from any family where one parent earns more than about £44,000 a year' forgetting to specify what defines 'parent' in that context...

billius_2

FBaby wrote: »

whereas I don't agree that tax credits should be taken into account, I don't agree that if they are not taken into account, it is acceptable to get reduction for children who might not be those of the nrp. Surely parents are responsible for their own children before children of their partners??

The whole thing is ridiculous. My ex new partner has two children from a previous relationship, so my children will have to do with less so their dad can support her children. On the other side, if the child benefit cut comes into practice, I will lose my child benefits because my partner earns over the threshold. Surely it should be about what my ex partner and I earn and should have nothing to do with my or his partner's situation.

I recieve ctc for my daughter, with my partner!!! My ex recieves ctc for our two boys!! Why should my daughter's ctc be affected for our two boys, which my ex recieves ctc for!!!???