Scrappage Scheme Bump Starts Car Sales

JonnyBravo

geoffky wrote: »

not a revelation! but as a moneysaver someone else will be taking the hit on my next one..

Very generous of you to "take the hit" this time around. Many thanks.

May I ask what prompted such a generous move from one normally so cautious?

Lotus-eater

I'm so annoyed about this scrappage scheme.
There is a dealer near me with a huge banner outside telling the world how great it is, as it is recycling, it has a massive recycling sign up (the arrows one) In fact this means, reduce, recycle, reuse
I am told that cars that come in on this scheme aren't allowed to be sold on, but must be scrapped......

It all gets a bit complicated doesn't it. Climate change POV and it all looks silly, Must use up stockpile of cars POV and it looks better as we have to keep the car makers going and if we don't sell off the stockpiles in time, we won't.
Yet we surely have a overproduction of cars in the world going forward.
Yet who wants their car factories to close?
Complicated.

mbga9pgf

They should drop their prices, pure and simple. Ford have put their prices up 3 times in the last 12 months, madness. Unless they can sell cars, they will go bust. Even if they sell twice as many as what they would normally at a slight loss, at least the production lines are open, highly trained workers remain employed and car dealerships can benefit from increased sales.

Instead, they are blindly hoping for a quick recovery, that wont materialise, whilst trying to sell cars that no-one can afford.

Seen the latest price for a Ford fiesta diesel? Its ludicrous. For a couple of extra grand, I can buy an audi A3 tdi, so why would I buy a ford with far poorer build quality?

geoffky

JonnyBravo wrote: »

Very generous of you to "take the hit" this time around. Many thanks.

May I ask what prompted such a generous move from one normally so cautious?

new model..did not have the patience to wait until there was 2nd hand stock on the market....:rolleyes:

JasonLVC

mbga9pgf wrote: »

They should drop their prices, pure and simple. Ford have put their prices up 3 times in the last 12 months, madness. Unless they can sell cars, they will go bust. Even if they sell twice as many as what they would normally at a slight loss, at least the production lines are open, highly trained workers remain employed and car dealerships can benefit from increased sales.

Instead, they are blindly hoping for a quick recovery, that wont materialise, whilst trying to sell cars that no-one can afford.

Seen the latest price for a Ford fiesta diesel? Its ludicrous. For a couple of extra grand, I can buy an audi A3 tdi, so why would I buy a ford with far poorer build quality?

Yes, Ford have introdcued several price rises in as many months but I'm not buying the constantly trotted out excuse that it is the Euro's fault. Some cars are amnufactured and built in the UK, using UK components so how the Euro affects the price...

Land Rover Jaguar are also set to announce price rises as well.

Looks like the UK consumer will be giving our nuclear trigger happy friends in Korea and China a few more grand to invest in world domination if the UK/EU manufacturers continue to take the mick on pricing.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

So to summarise:


SALES CONTINUE TO FALL

mustrum_ridcully

Fella wrote: »

This scheme is a scam.

I can tell you for a fact (a fact I can't prove, at least not that I'm prepared to prove on a BB, so it's up to you whether to believe me ) that as soon as this was introduced certain car manufacturers immediately dropped other incentives (stuff like free insurance) on the cheaper cars so that the net price remained the same.

This scheme could be summarised as the taxpayer simply paying £2K to the car manufacturers for each new car sold. The car-buyer is no better off & is actually worse off in the vast majority of cases, compared to deals available at car supermarkets.

Have a look at the APRs for some of the cars bought under the scheme as well. They can several % higher than when buying the car normally...

bo_drinker

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I read it as in sales were again lower this month, but now as low as last month, therefore scrappage scheme = success?

But the money will soon run dry and meanwhile some perfectly usable vehicles have been scrapped, not the greenest of ideas

geoffky

bo_drinker wrote: »

But the money will soon run dry and meanwhile some perfectly usable vehicles have been scrapped, not the greenest of ideas

When i bought my car i had to pay for it to be offset for 40k miles...

avantra

bo_drinker wrote: »

But the money will soon run dry and meanwhile some perfectly usable vehicles have been scrapped, not the greenest of ideas

I agree, the Ford and Honda dealers down the road from us have a back yard full of fully working Mondeos, Passats and lots of other, all heading to the damp.

Considering that at list the Mondeos of that vintage were one of the most reliable saloons on the road few years back (according to JD and HJ web site) it is bordering lunacy that they been scrapped!:mad: