Graduates 'Could be Jobless For Years'

Cleaver

wigglebeena wrote: »

Trades: the people who get stuff done.

University-educated: the people who shuffle bits of paper once the stuff is done by the tradesmen..

Forums: the people who go for for massive over-generalisations.

Comyface

Cleaver wrote: »

Forums: the people who go for for massive over-generalisations.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Alan_M_2

I hated school, I was never achademic as a teenager, even now the thought of writing a thesis about something in which I wasn't really interested makes me want to nod of like a narcoleptic.

Back in the day when I left school (the 80's) a degree still meant something, it pointed to a certain level of intelligence....now that's been watered down.

I digress......

As a non degree earner, I was left the options of being a small cog in the grinding wheels of industry or doing something myself...I chose the latter.

I'm 40 this year, I never really knew what I wanted to do, I'm not sure I would have chosen to do what I do now, but I like it......but I could be persuaded to try something else. Basically if I can make money doing it and it's legal I'll give it a shot.

What I couldn't do is 9 to 5 office drudgery.....I'm just an apalling employee...at least being my own boss I can never claim I'm not being paid my worth as I'm completely responsible for what I earn!

treliac

Alan_M wrote: »

I'm 40 this year, I never really knew what I wanted to do, I'm not sure I would have chosen to do what I do now, but I like it......but I could be persuaded to try something else. Basically if I can make money doing it and it's legal I'll give it a shot.

Having whetted our appetite, are you going to tell us what it is?

PasturesNew

treliac wrote: »

Having whetted our appetite, are you going to tell us what it is?

Maybe it involves a 70s moustache and a toolbelt.

LittleMissAspie

I'm 31 and have no idea what sort of job I'd like to do. All I've worked out so far is that I'm not a career person, I am more interested in my homelife. All the jobs I've had I kind of fell into them with no planning. I'm doing well at my current job but if I get made redundant I have no idea what to do next.

Do people really plan to become things like "Procurement Manager" or "HR Manager"? That's their life ambition? No offence to anyone in procurement or HR but I cannot see anything interesting or attractive about these sorts of jobs. I can't see 18 year olds saying they'd really love to be a Procurement Manager.

lostinrates

vivatifosi wrote: »

Thanks Sue, I've been waiting for you to answer, I can go to bed now that I know! I wanted to be an Astronaut myself. I blame growing up under the Apollo programme.

Good luck reaching your goal if you decide at some point its time to.

I wanted to be either a trapeze artisit or the lady who rode horses bareback in the circus, or both I ride horses breback, sometimes, and sometimes in funny clothes: not leotards though, and not in a circus. Who knows though

lostinrates

fc123 wrote: »

I have a Power of One thing going down though. I don't shop there. Won't make much difference..but would if others folowed suit.

and me. Maybe one day I'll be able to sell you an exhorbitant chicken? I can do you a good price on eggs now , or, this week anyway.

lostinrates

globalds wrote: »

I can't see what alternatives we have in place for young people.
Real apprenticeships are as rare as hens teeth and the route I used to train for a career, sponsorship through a Union is now nowhere to be seen.
The construction industry won't be offering much training for the next few years ....Maybe the military ..But it seems a high risk strategy with the present situation.
I like the idea of a college credit ...some people might not be ready at 18 ,but value the chance to learn at a later date.

There are some.

One of th problems is that some of the careers have got more complicated. e.g. A farmer might used to have to know about chickens, now s/he has to know about DEFRA paperwork too, and to understand how to run a farm efficiently and legally some more extentive knowledge of chemicals for land manangement and/or animal sciences for economical feeding/treating etc etc is important. The balance of both skills is the rare ideal.. The knowledge we expect from some vocational professionals is more than it might appear at first glnce. Not all, by long chalk, come up to scratch, with or without degrees.

DH did professional qualifications, what once might have been covered by on the job training under the guise of ''articles''. The post grad education cost almost £20k, and one year was at best next to expensivily irrelevant, on the job would have been far superior, cheaper for us (and potentially the employer, most of whom cover fees if you apply to them at the right point).

wigglebeena

LittleMissAspie wrote: »

I'm 31 and have no idea what sort of job I'd like to do. All I've worked out so far is that I'm not a career person, I am more interested in my homelife. All the jobs I've had I kind of fell into them with no planning. I'm doing well at my current job but if I get made redundant I have no idea what to do next.

Do people really plan to become things like "Procurement Manager" or "HR Manager"? That's their life ambition? No offence to anyone in procurement or HR but I cannot see anything interesting or attractive about these sorts of jobs. I can't see 18 year olds saying they'd really love to be a Procurement Manager.

You have to be able to fake it. If you can't do a good approximation of Companyspeak (closely related to Newspeak) you won't get anywhere at that company.