Download legality

Doonhamer

Is it illegal to download something I already own? If for example I have bought a CD and it got damaged or I have a track on cassette in the attic, is it ilegal to download it or have I already paid royalties for it?

Is it the process of downloading itself that is illegal or is it the breach of copyright?

Just wondering.

Fran

If you bought a book you wouldn't expect to get free copies just because you have paid for copyright once.

It's illegal to copy material that is copyrighted but there are plenty of legal download sites where you can pay the copyright.

There is information on the Cheapest "Legal Music Download" Hunt thread.

sra

Doonhamer wrote:

Is it illegal to download something I already own? If for example I have bought a CD and it got damaged or I have a track on cassette in the attic, is it ilegal to download it or have I already paid royalties for it?

Is it the process of downloading itself that is illegal or is it the breach of copyright?

Just wondering.

The RIAA dosen't even accept that ripping your own CDs is always ok.
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/02/15/riaa_cd_ripping_isnt.html

I remember reading that terms on some recent CDs meant that you could only keep music if you had the CD. If your CD collection was stolen you would have to dutifully go to your computer and mp3 player and erase all copies you made!

i'll post if I find the link

adr0ck

dvd recorders ..... the ones under your telly

what are they for?????????????????

it must be to look nice!!!!!!!!!!!

sra

New it was also on Boing Boing:

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/11/09/sonys_eula_is_worse_.html

Read that crazy stuff! :rolleyes2

mr_fishbulb

Doonhamer wrote:

Is it the process of downloading itself that is illegal or is it the breach of copyright?

Most of the proccesses of downloading material involves uploading it too (that's how file sharing works). It's the uploading it to other people who don't own copyright to it that gets you into trouble.

Fran wrote:

If you bought a book you wouldn't expect to get free copies just because you have paid for copyright once.

That's an popular comparison, but a wrong one. There is a physical cost involved in printing and binding the book. There is no cost involved in digital data.

sra wrote:

The RIAA dosen't even accept that ripping your own CDs is always ok.

The RIAA is American and has no say in the UK. Also the RIAA is not a law making power. It doesn't matter what they say, they can only lobby governmental powers to make it law.

Fran

mr_fishbulb wrote:

Most of the proccesses of downloading material involves uploading it too (that's how file sharing works). It's the uploading it to other people who don't own copyright to it that gets you into trouble.

Downloading without paying any necessary copyright can also "get you into trouble".

That's an popular comparison, but a wrong one. There is a physical cost involved in printing and binding the book. There is no cost involved in digital data...................

No it's not wrong. The issue is the copyright, not the costs involved.

wolfman

Fran wrote:

No it's not wrong. The issue is the copyright, not the costs involved.

I'd say different worlds, like comparing apples and oranges. Not the best comparison as it's comparing digital data, to printed text.

Digital rights are often still quite a grey area. Any fair use rights went out the window when the EUCD was implemented. I'd basically steer clear of the downloading unless it's legal. If you have the cd the best thing is to mp3 the tracks from that. I (correct me if I'm wrong) believe it's still ok to do so as long as you aren't circumventing any copy protection.

mr_fishbulb

This site seems to have lots of answers:
http://www.childnet-int.org/music/faq_bpi.html

The site looks like it's some suilly kids thing, but it was linked to from here.

geo555

Interesting article here.

https://www.p2pnet.net/article/7995

Darksun

sra wrote:

The RIAA dosen't even accept that ripping your own CDs is always ok.

The UK has no Fair Use anyway. Ripping your own CDs is illegal in this country, there's no issue of fair use to get tangled in.