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Home delivery - eco friendly?

Hi - first post, been browsing for a bit.

How does it compare getting a delivery from a supermarket to going to the supermarket yourself? I have been thinking that the fuel used by the delivery vans is going to be more efficiently used than me going there by car. Is this right?

Local shops are okay if you like white bread, fizzy pop and instant ready meals. :rolleyes:

How about ordering from the internet? You have added packaging but (guessing?) reduced petrol from delivery vans - is this right?

TIA
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  • Antric
    Antric Posts: 20 Forumite
    i think if everyone ordered there shopping online it would be far better for example if there are 20 houses on a street and that 20 cars going shopping a week. There is a great fuel saving and carbon emission's lower if one van deliver's to the whole road.
  • angel13
    angel13 Posts: 2,272 Forumite
    sorry i do not agree! We get our groceries ordered online some weeks as partner is away with the car. We have a local asda or other stores that are all within 1-2miles from our house that we would normally use. When we use online option though due to some order issues we have discovered the order comes from 20miles away from us from another store as our local one is not used for online shopping. And this shop is further south east than us so IF the groceries are all driven to be delivered from anywhere in any other direction than that will actually add even more miles and then they go back down the same road to get back to us. so not an eco option at all it seems.....
    I have started using milk delivery to try and be a bit more eco as no plastic bottles (finally!) but i also have doubts about how much better it really is. Also seen milk in bags in sainsbury's last week to cut packaging by 75% if anyone is interested :)
  • Thanks guys.

    gekkohq - yeah, see you round :D

    Antric - that's what I have thought, cos it's got to be more efficient, even if the drop offs are just local and not really close. Of course, if my local shops sold anything like veg then I wouldn't need the delivery, but that's life, right?

    Been thinking :eek: and the most effective way I can think is for me to drive to farm shops and then get delivered the stuff I can't find elsewhere.
  • Angel 13 - I never thought about that! The name on the statement is the nearest supermarket to me, and I hope that it is.

    Don't fancy trogging back and forward on the buses. He who must be obeyed doesn't do shopping.

    How do you find a milkman? Yellow Pages? We don't do much milk here, but I get sick of all the cartons. I have never seen a milk van round here, but then I don't do early.
  • MrsBartolozzi
    MrsBartolozzi Posts: 6,358 Forumite
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    Antric wrote: »
    i think if everyone ordered there shopping online it would be far better for example if there are 20 houses on a street and that 20 cars going shopping a week. There is a great fuel saving and carbon emission's lower if one van deliver's to the whole road.


    Yes, but this would only be saving fuel if at least two of the neighbours got their stuff delivered at the same time. In practise each neighbour would probably want their delivery at different times and on different days and so there would still be the equivalent of 20 journeys to/from the supermarket.

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  • Antric
    Antric Posts: 20 Forumite
    i see i suppose it depends on whether the shop you would normally drive to has the food come out of there store i know my local sainsbury does but i couldnt be sure that my tesco wouldnt come from further away.

    so i guess your rite angel13 its not allway's the way but in some cases im sure my theory would be correct
  • Antric
    Antric Posts: 20 Forumite
    mrs bartolozzi: i understand what you are saying and i agree but what im saying if everyone did online shopping ok people are going to order different nights times etc. in a genral though one van going out delivering to say 20 different houses in my town a nite has got to be helping a little compared to those 20 people making there way to the shop.

    this theory could differ depending on your towns location in relation to the shops
  • MrsBartolozzi - I thought at the start that I ordered my shopping for delivery at noon on a Sunday and the van driver would work out the most efficient route for all the houses wanting their shopping between 12 and 1 on a Sunday and it would save loads of petrol. The name on the bank statement is the nearest to me. So in theory it should be better.

    Best would be getting the bus to the market, so I suppose I had better get off my backside.
  • angel13
    angel13 Posts: 2,272 Forumite
    Angel 13 - I never thought about that! The name on the statement is the nearest supermarket to me, and I hope that it is.

    Don't fancy trogging back and forward on the buses. He who must be obeyed doesn't do shopping.

    How do you find a milkman? Yellow Pages? We don't do much milk here, but I get sick of all the cartons. I have never seen a milk van round here, but then I don't do early.

    dairy crest came and knocked on my door about deliveries - they do organic and other options as well. weve been using them 3 weeks now there is a website so maybe you can check on there. they also can deliver other food as well which seems same price as supermarkets to me so good as a back up and means i might be using that for basics when partner is away instead as if they are delivering milk may as well deliver other things same time.
  • angel13
    angel13 Posts: 2,272 Forumite
    Antric wrote: »
    i see i suppose it depends on whether the shop you would normally drive to has the food come out of there store i know my local sainsbury does but i couldnt be sure that my tesco wouldnt come from further away.

    so i guess your rite angel13 its not allway's the way but in some cases im sure my theory would be correct
    its probably possible to check this i would think. i couldnt believe it when i realised when i use asda our stuff comes literally miles - and most times i have ordered drivers do not know my town as they have come here just to deliver to me and then onto a different town :eek::eek: so necessary when partner is away but not eco at all :( i do use them (or try to) for one big bulk shop of the monthly basics once a month as we cant fit that much in the car anyhow and partner would whinge like mad at me. months i have done that we have saved money and so if you have a store near you that does online orders directly from them is well worth considering IMHO.
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