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Michelin Primacy HP vs Energy Saver
Looking to get 2 front tyres for Focus 56 TDCi. I had the car about a year and do about 12Kpa, the P6000s which came on it dont seem to have lasted long. So I am looking at ones that hopefuly last longer. I know this is a difficult question to answer, but perhaps someone could tell if there is any significant difference between these 2 Michelin tyres. How do they compare in the dry and wet, and would one last much longer than the other?
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It is a difficult one as in order to really judge a tyre you need to have used it for it's whole life. I find tyres can change their behaviour usually degrading in the second half of their life in terms of grip / road noise.
The new version of the Michelin Energy saver tyre is very highly rated in independant tests for grip etc. and should last well.
I'll tell you about a comparison between Pirelli P6000 and Michelin Pilot Primacy HP's on my wife's Mazda 6. The Michelins are noticebly quieter and grip better than the P6000's ever did and though we are only about 8000 miles into their life they seem to be lasting well with even wear. Their performance holds up well in the winter when the P6000's and Bridgestone RE040's we had previously allowed more wheel spin pulling away in the cold and wet.
Michelin claim 25% longer life than similar competitors for both these tyres.
I think either of these Michelin tyres will be a good option, I would go for the HP's simply because I have good experience with them on two cars (my car has them too now) and would not want to risk being stuck with a tyre I liked less for 20-25K miles+. The energy savers might save you about £80-£150 in fuel over their life if you beleive the claims will hold true in real world driving conditions.
I doubt their is much difference in life between the two.0 -
I've just spoken to my dad who has a new shaped Focus diesel and has the Michelin Primacy HP tryes on his car. He had Goodyear ones on before which he said were not as good as the Michelins he now has.
He said they are great for grip in the wet and dry. He has done 8,000 miles on them and said the fronts have hardly worn down at all and the rear ones are like new.
Hope this helps.
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I have Primacy tyres on mine all around. They're pretty good, quiet, wearing ok (about 4mm still after 20,000 miles or so)
Just make sure that when the tyres are changed, the fitter puts the wheels carrying the tyres with the most tread on the back of the car - not the front.0 -
Thanks for wanting to buy British - Michelin tyres aren't just made in France - Millions of Michelin car tyres are made here in the UK too.;)
Make sure you choose the correct speed rating on the tyres for your car, that's just as important as getting a good tyre, the right size etc.
I can't say anymore on the comparison of the two tyres because of where I work. Except to say they're both really good tyres.;)
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does the HP stand for high performance?
I would just stick with the saver, or saver +0 -
Thanks for all your comments. Think I will give the Primacy HP versions a go and will see if a local tyre fitter can match blackcircles.
One question further I have is on speed rating, the current tyres are 91W, would it be very wrong to have 91V? I dont drive that fast to ever reach the speed quoted in the speed ratings and the 91V are usually cheaper.
Just realised they were V all along. Dont know why I got W into my head.0 -
"Michelin Pilot Primacy HP" replaces the original "Michelin Pilot Primacy" I beleive.
ailuro2 can probably confirm that since is a pretty safe bet he works at the Michelin factory in Dundee powered by wind turbines by the looks of a quick google search.... or did I guess wrong:rotfl:
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