Energy bills to hit £5,000 a year by 2020

1echidna

ad9898 wrote: »

No, there aren't, not for 6 billion. For 2 billion, yes, I would agree with your post.

I would like to know on what you base your assertion that there won't be technological fixes? Seems to me to be very hard to prove a negative and the technologies I quoted are just a few amongst many which have great potential.

roddydogs

Ah, experts! would they be the ones that told us wed be out of Petrol by 1979?

Mr_Mumble

ad9898 wrote: »

It may well come to pass, short termism is going to be the West's downfall, blackouts are already forecast for 2014-15 in the UK.

The short termism is very much a UK phenom, France will have no problem with energy supplies as 80% comes from nuclear power. With record gas finds in America and continental Europe having access to the largely untapped ex-USSR supplies the 'west' will have plenty of energy for decades to come. Only Britain will be paying through the nose for energy given its lack of gas storage, dwindling nuclear capacity along with intermittent and expensive wind power. Imported LNG will be the only way to keep the lights on thanks to New Labour's kowtowing to every green pressure group.

withabix

...good job I'm emigrating to Canada!

Graham_Devon

Can't see this happening in truth.

Thats over £400 per month. For anyone paying quarterly, it's probably around £800 per month from Nov - Mar, making one quarterly bill around £2400. I know I personally use about a quarter of the energy in the summer months compared to the winter months.

Think of how highly taxes would also have to rise to pay out winter fuel allowances, and to make sure those on benefits can pay their fuel bills.

Bit of a double whammy, more tax (a lot more!) to help those who currently survive on benefits and a massive great bill.

Wages could never rise enough to keep up.

1echidna

roddydogs wrote: »

Ah, experts! would they be the ones that told us wed be out of Petrol by 1979?

Occasionally true 'experts' have reason to ring the alarm bells, more often than not it is not people of sufficient judgement and ability to be described as true experts but people who don't sit in the mainstream of a field of endeavour and see it as a way to make a quick buck or promote themselves by publishing alarmist material. The true experts don't have the time to indulge in idle often misplaced speculation.

PasturesNew

When I buy a house it'll be small and modern. Well insulated. I will live 2-3 miles from work, preferably on a bus route and train route, so I can walk/cycle/drive to work, or catch the bus/train.... I plan to keep my energy bills uber-cheap.

purch

I will live 2-3 miles from work, preferably on a bus route and train route, so I can walk/cycle/drive to work, or catch the bus/train

There won't be any work.

Buses and Trains will be too expensive to operate.

Everyone will walk through the ruins of what was once a great Nation.

ad9898_3

PasturesNew wrote: »

When I buy a house it'll be small and modern. Well insulated. I will live 2-3 miles from work, preferably on a bus route and train route, so I can walk/cycle/drive to work, or catch the bus/train.... I plan to keep my energy bills uber-cheap.

Make sure you buy somewhere with a garden to grow things.

Cleaver

maninthestreet wrote: »

There will be rioting on the streets if energy bills reach £1,250 per quarter in 5 years.

Presumably done by candlelight and with wind-powered batons to keep costs down.