Union member sacked by Total..

nexuss

Italian and Portuguese workers were employed who are entitled to do so under european law.They were mainly chosen as UK workers were asking for too much money.

Oldernotwiser

Snakeeyes21 wrote: »

since when has it been up to unions to dictate how a company is run, do these people not realise we no longer live in the 70's and 80's

And that's a good thing because?....

dmg24

buckstar555 wrote: »

And your another freik show!!:mad:

Are you speaking another language? :rotfl:

Rolandtheroadie

Snakeeyes21 wrote: »

I dont see what the problem is.
total sacked these people because they went on an unofficial strike, over a sub contractor taking on people when total let some people go.
is it not up to the sub contractor who or where they hire from?
since when has it been up to unions to dictate how a company is run, do these people not realise we no longer live in the 70's and 80's

So it's ok to get rid of people even although their jobs are still there? Exploit cheap labour from foreign countries? And you cant see whats wrong with that?

Lets get the kids sewing the reeboks again, sweeping chimneys, darning footballs.

Snakeeyes21

Your missing the point. Total and this sub contractor are 2 different companies. The jobs at total arent still there, the jobs were with the sub contractor. The sub contractor probably had these people lined up for months.
just because your made redundant from one company doesnt give the person the right to gain employment with a sub contractor who is a completely different company to who you were previously employed with.
its like me working at tesco being made redundant then demanding a job with a sub contractor who maintains the buildings.
and another point, nobody is being exploited, these foreign workers have exacally the same rights as you and me.

Pssst

Leaving aside the Total dispute for a moment,there are those,mostly in pen pushing office jobs,who think all that nasty union stuff is for those greasemonkeys in overalls. They think because they are in nice clean offices,that some how,they are above the overall wearing proleteriat.

They need to think again. Most of us who work for a living,yes,even the so called powershower professional classes,needs a union. Remember,sh&te flows downhill so unless your king of the hill,you might cop an eyeful of it.

-BA-

Pssst wrote: »

Leaving aside the Total dispute for a moment,there are those,mostly in pen pushing office jobs,who think all that nasty union stuff is for those greasemonkeys in overalls. They think because they are in nice clean offices,that some how,they are above the overall wearing proleteriat.

They need to think again. Most of us who work for a living,yes,even the so called powershower professional classes,needs a union. Remember,sh&te flows downhill so unless your king of the hill,you might cop an eyeful of it.

http://www.tuc.org.uk/tuc/unions_main.cfm

Read that list and don't be so damned ignorant. There are unions for pretty much every sector of employment out there. People who are posting in opposition to the OP are posting because the strike was unofficial and therefore not even backed by the union. This means (in case you can't work that one out) that the union were therefore in no position to defend them. There are rules to follow, they didn't follow them, they got the boot.

nexuss

scotsman4th wrote: »

So it's ok to get rid of people even although their jobs are still there? Exploit cheap labour from foreign countries? And you cant see whats wrong with that?

Lets get the kids sewing the reeboks again, sweeping chimneys, darning footballs.

The italian and portuguese workers are just as skilled if not more skilled than their british counterparts.Also the sub-contracting company that employs them were able to offer them at a great rate as british workers were asking for way too much money.

SusanPatel

Jastons wrote: »

Do you know anything about EU employment laws?

Yes actually I do, if this dispute was in France and Total even suggested
bringing in Eastern European workers, their would be riots.:mad:

The main point I was trying to question, was not Law or union Law, but
people in Lincolnshire do not live in tents!, they have the same weekly
expenditure as you I, SO if this idea is fine with you guy's?, then lets fill
all of our farmland with Camps for foreign workers!!, look how cheaply we
could manufacture..

Horace

I take it Ms Patel that despite living in Kent you haven't looked out of your own backdoor? Our countryside is littered with camps full of foreign workers who are here to pick our fruit because people over here think it is beneath them to work on a farm and get their hands dirty. There are camps of these workers in Kent just as there are in Herefordshire, Worcestershire and in other counties where fruit and other crops need to be harvested. All credit to them, they come here earn their cash and go home whilst all the time our british workers whine and whinge and yet won't get off their butts and go and do these jobs.

Call an unofficial strike and you deserve to get the sack.

Oh and before anyone says anything I used to be a branch secretary of Unison.