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I need help! Council Homes / Housing Benefit etc

Hi guys,

OK here's the tale: Lass has recently married chap and they live in a council owned one bed flat. His bro is staying there too and lass is pregnant - Babe due in september. Chap is disabled and does not work, brother doesn't work either and lass is going on Mat leave fairly soon (no enhanced)
They have been told they have "no chance" of getting a 2 bed flat as the council need to see said babe's birth certificate and even then it'll take "years".
My thoughts - That they should consider moving away from that district (London) or possibly look to rent privately.


So... can anyone help with ideas of their options and how I can find out what if any housing benefit they could get? Please?

Many thanks guys
PP x
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  • EagerLearner
    EagerLearner Posts: 4,976 Forumite
    Sorry PP not much I can add apart from a bump, someone with info bound to come along soon... maybe call housing benefit or research on Google x
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  • poppysarah
    poppysarah Posts: 11,522 Forumite
    Do they work? Would they live to live elsewhere?
    Moving away from the madness of London has got to be a good idea if it's the only way they'll get bigger housing for a sensible price.

    I'd say they should go and see their MP but these days they'll just try to rent you their btl portfolio.
  • EagerLearner
    EagerLearner Posts: 4,976 Forumite
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
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  • poppysarah wrote: »

    I'd say they should go and see their MP but these days they'll just try to rent you their btl portfolio.

    Snigger!:rotfl:
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  • omen666
    omen666 Posts: 2,206 Forumite
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    First and foremost never give upo a council house, you will take years to get another one.

    Have they thought of a flat swap? Upgrade for someone that is prepared to downgrade

    This is what the LHA are prepared to pay

    https://lha-direct.voa.gov.uk/Secure/Default.aspx
  • liz545
    liz545 Posts: 1,726 Forumite
    DirectGov is always a good place to start with this kind of thing. If he doesn't work because of a disability, he should be on health-related benefits such as Incapacity Benefit or Employment Support Allowance. If they're in a 1 bed at the moment they may just have to stick it out until the baby's born, but they should go and see their housing officer - I'm not 100% on this but if the 4 of them are living in a 1 bed flat that would constitute overcrowding and make them a higher priority for a bigger flat. TBH, if they've got a council tenancy they should try and hold onto it, as the waiting lists are very long, and council rents are usually very favourable compared to private renting, and the tenancies have greater security which is important if they're expecting. HTH!
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  • Thanks guys that's very useful - I shall trawl direct gov and see what I can find...
    PP x
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  • Jowo_2
    Jowo_2 Posts: 8,308 Forumite
    I don't understand why an adult brother is adding to the overcrowding of the household with his married brother and expectant bride? Perhaps he should just move out? I hope this doesn't come across as glib but it seems an unusual arrangement unless one is acting as carer for another, for example.

    Is he also on the tenancy agreement with the council or if not, does the tenant have permission to sublet to others? It will help others to give advice if it is understood who are the named tenants with the council.

    The reason I query this is that if he doesn't have any official status there, I imagine he is considered no more than a guest of the household and is ignored when it comes to housing size allocation.

    Has the 2nd brother applied to the council and local housing associations for his own accommodation - they award extra points for overcrowded households, I believe.

    I don't believe LHA is payable when one relative rents to another who both live in the same property, should one of them be acting in the capacity of landlord and charging their guest rent. Again, apologies if that's not the case, I just don't full understand their tenancy status.
  • Morglin
    Morglin Posts: 15,925 Forumite
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    Hi guys,

    OK here's the tale: Lass has recently married chap and they live in a council owned one bed flat. His bro is staying there too and lass is pregnant - Babe due in september. Chap is disabled and does not work, brother doesn't work either and lass is going on Mat leave fairly soon (no enhanced)
    They have been told they have "no chance" of getting a 2 bed flat as the council need to see said babe's birth certificate and even then it'll take "years".
    My thoughts - That they should consider moving away from that district (London) or possibly look to rent privately.


    So... can anyone help with ideas of their options and how I can find out what if any housing benefit they could get? Please?

    Many thanks guys
    PP x

    I would have said 'lass' and 'chap' need to help 'brother' find somewhere else to live, and when the baby is born, then apply for a bigger place, although it may take ages before they actually get a bigger flat - but, to be honest, I wouldn't give up the council flat.

    At least there, it has got security of tenure.

    Lin :)
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  • maninthestreet
    maninthestreet Posts: 16,127 Forumite
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    Was getting a pregnant a good idea given their current housing situation?
    It must quite cosy in that 1 bed flat with 3 adults living there.
    "You were only supposed to blow the bl**dy doors off!!"
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