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Anyone got any thoughts about the base rate

We are deciding whether to go onto a fixed rate or a variable when we renew our mortgage deal.. The fixed will be more expensive in the short term but once the base rate goes back up to 1.5% I think we'll be worse off. It's a three year deal so if the base rate stays low for the next 18 months we'll probably lose out overall....it's just a fixed rate looks pretty tempting with the rate at rock bottom.

What is everyone financial crystal ball telling them?
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  • Ed_Zep
    Ed_Zep Posts: 340 Forumite
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    What rates have you been offered?

    It's all a guess but once interest rates start to rise, I think they'll go up pretty much as quickly as they went down. Where they'll settle is anyone's guess.

    http://www.mortgages.co.uk/interest-rates/interest-rate-history.html
  • StuartGMC
    StuartGMC Posts: 2,175 Forumite
    Ed-Zed
    I agree it is all crystal ball, lenders are already pushing up rates and BoE will have to start raising rates once inflation kicks in as they need to keep it close to 2.4% (I think). Watching the financial information closely may help, but, like trying to spot the "bottom" in the market, gauging the precise best rate & time to fix is easier to do in hindsight. Consider whether you can tolerate interest rates of 5, 7, 9% then decide when to trigger and jump into a fixed rate.
  • Lunar_Eclipse
    Lunar_Eclipse Posts: 3,060 Forumite
    My crystal ball says fix, but it sounds like you either haven't been offered a great deal, or you are currently on a great deal (tracker?)

    We are about to fix, which will interestingly be below our current SVR. For us, we only lose out if the BOE rate goes down (highly unlikely!) However we will probably hold the offer for 6 months to lengthen the deal as we are opting for a 2 year product (lowest rate & fees.) I am well aware it may be awful when we come off it!
  • Peelerfart
    Peelerfart Posts: 2,177 Forumite
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    Do these fixed rate deals offer flexibilty in overpaying ?

    This is after all the MFW board and the OP feature might influence a decision as to which product should be chosen
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  • DelBoyPhil
    DelBoyPhil Posts: 875 Forumite
    next month i reckon they will go up 1/4% cos of the last minutes from the interest rate people
  • RosieTiger
    RosieTiger Posts: 863 Forumite
    Make your decision based on your ability to afford any potential increase - any additional cost on a fixed rate is surely the cost of "insuring" the risks of rises in the period.
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  • Little_Mama
    Little_Mama Posts: 925 Forumite
    My crystal ball says fix, but it sounds like you either haven't been offered a great deal, or you are currently on a great deal (tracker?)

    We are about to fix, which will interestingly be below our current SVR. For us, we only lose out if the BOE rate goes down (highly unlikely!) However we will probably hold the offer for 6 months to lengthen the deal as we are opting for a 2 year product (lowest rate & fees.) I am well aware it may be awful when we come off it!


    We've fixed on a 2.99% for 2 years, like you, well aware where things could be but plan to overpay by as much as possible during that time as we expect to pay considerably more when we come off.

    LM ;)
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  • gallygirl
    gallygirl Posts: 17,240 Forumite
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    I too am obsessing about this at the mo. 2 of our mortgages are on deals fixed to base rate, the 3rd is linked to mortgage rate which, barring the last cut, has dropped along with base rate. Am hoping experts are right that base rate will stay the same till 2nd 1/4 next year but if I did not have redemption penalties now I would fix for 3 years.

    We have a BTL @ 1.24% above base till end of year. Goodness knows what will happen then. Problem is (ok, 'problem' is stretching it a bit, plenty people would be happy with it) we will only owe around 40k by then, so the arrangement fees will have a disproportionate effect.

    The 2 mortgages on our own house are at 0.99% above base till Oct 2010 (70k) and 0.25% discount on mortgage rate till July 2012, so although rates are great at the mo they will soon start to rise. Combined they represent about 60% of value so with 40% equity we should be ok to move to a better deal when they end, assuming prices are stabilising.

    What I would really like is to lump all 3 together into one debt and have a great fixed rate but complete flexibility & offset facility :rolleyes:. Realistically we'll probably go for SVR for BTL, and aim to pay off asap. Complicated because although interest is supposedly calculated daily that only seems to apply to adding interest - lump sum overpayments, and regular monthly overpayments are only credited at the end of the year. (Beware anyone with C&G mortgages - this appears to be the case generally). So, best to stick in a savings account & pay off in December.
    A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
    :) Mortgage Balance = £0 :)
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  • Pee
    Pee Posts: 3,826 Forumite
    If the recession is going to get worse and more jobs are going to be lost, then inflation won't start coming back up.

    At the moment people don't seem to be spending even though they are not actually any worse off - most of them - and so at some point these good intentions might just break and then we could have inflation.
  • financialbliss
    financialbliss Posts: 1,952 Forumite
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    Here's a historical BoE base rate analysis since 1975 in 5 year chunks:

    boe_base_rate.png

    Think we're all in agreement that the only way is up, just a matter of when!

    FB.
    Mortgage and debt free. Building up savings...
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