We said noto0870 & the consumer has won!!

retsbed

See the article in the link...consumer revenge!!

http://0870changes.info/

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utilitybroker

A significant proportion of 0870 users have moved their contact numbers to other number ranges such as 0844 and 0871 that continue to support revenue sharing.

DonnyDave

utilitybroker wrote: »

A significant proportion of 0870 users have moved their contact numbers to other number ranges such as 0844 and 0871 that continue to support revenue sharing.

Indeed, the campaign goes on saying no to 0844 and 0845 in particular. These are revenue sharing numbers.

From 1 August, those on 0871 will officially be regulated by PhonepayPlus as "premium rate services", just as those on 09xx have done so for years.

redux

retsbed wrote: »

See the article in the link...consumer revenge!!

:beer:

Actually, the link in your post is a site promoting alternative revenue-sharing possibilities to businesses

As such, it looks like the revenge is the other way round.

Jemma-T

Yes, it's essentially spam recommending people to scam even more money off their customers, clients, disabled, ill, stupid etc etc.

The consumer never 'wins' either. It's a small victory perhaps for those in the know but people will still dial 0844+ without knowing the cost.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/0870calls/0870statement/ are also scammers as they take money off our taxes and seemingly find it nearly impossible to help us. They should be forcing people to insert messages into the start of a call to give a pence per minute charge rate. That would a real win for the consumer.

DrScotsman

The article says 0870 will cost 1-2p/min for the consumer and 3.5p/min for the owner of the number. So let's compare this to an 01/02/03 number:

a) Consumers either lose or don't benefit: Either this 1-2p/min doesn't come under inclusive allowance in which case they lose as it costs more than 01/02/03, or it comes under inclusive allowance in which case it's exactly the same as 01/02/03.
b) 0870 owners lose: Companies have the disadvantage that they have to pay to receive calls on an 0870 number. I assume businesses aren't charged by the minute for 01/02/03 numbers, so why this?
c) Telephone companies win: Kaching!

So basically we have a number range that is worse than the 01/02/03 number range for everyone except the telephone companies. If a company wanted revenue share they'd move to 0871, if they didn't mind the lack of revenue share then there is no reason not to be on 01/02/03 other than wanting to keep their old number

One of two things should have happened:
a) 0845/0870 become for all intents and purposes like 03 numbers, because back in the day the idea was these cost the same as local/national and they should do so again. This is basically the same thing that is happening now except no one who doesn't want revenue share would have to move number.
b) Absolutely nothing.

DonnyDave

DrScotsman wrote: »

So basically we have a number range that is worse than the 01/02/03 number range for everyone except the telephone companies. If a company wanted revenue share they'd move to 0871, if they didn't mind the lack of revenue share then there is no reason not to be on 01/02/03 other than wanting to keep their old number

DrScotsman, in reality, charging will be as 03.

The figures presented are very rough, and so I can see it has the potential to mislead.

Both incoming charges on these numbers (to call recipients) and outgoing charges to callers will be subject to price competition, so one cannot define exactly.

There is the question of whether businesses looking for a new number will have an 0870 one. I think not. Why would they if they can have a 03 one which has a nice clean image, not tarnished like 0870?