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Is it possible to have a lodger in a self-contained annexe?

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  • Cissi
    Cissi Posts: 1,131 Forumite
    Artful, if I understand you correctly that sounds pretty promising (although again, I'm not mainly worried about the contract with the tenant as this will be a close relation, but rather the legal aspects, to make sure that we're not in breach of anything).
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,691 Forumite
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    (Speaking as a Landlord...) the question I would ask myself re having a lodger/tenant who was a friend/relative....

    If it all goes wrong, friend gets new girl-friend/toy-boy in, kids as well, rent ain't paid, everyone starts arguing etc. etc... are you prepared to evict friend & the kids...???

    If not, regardless of legal status/tenancy type, don't even start...

    Cheers!

    Lodger
  • zzzLazyDaisy
    zzzLazyDaisy Posts: 12,497 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Just a thought - if the annexe is totally self contained, you don't get the tax free exemption under the rent a room scheme.

    Would it be possible to have this person stay as a guest rent free, but to contribute in some other way (I'm thinking maybe agree to pay the council tax and/or gas bill as her contribution to shared living expenses. If she paid them by direct debit from her account directly to the utility provider, then no money would pass through your account, and she would be living more as a member of the family and contributing to joint household expenses, rather than as a lodger/tenant.

    As I say, just a thought.
    I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.
  • Cissi
    Cissi Posts: 1,131 Forumite
    Lodger, yes absolutely, if things went terribly wrong we would be prepared to evict them. For various reasons the scenarios you suggest would be extremely unlikely, but we're all aware that unforeseen things can happen, and we wouldn't even consider this if we weren't prepared to deal with possible consequences.

    LazyDaisy, thank you, I like your thinking, and in fact we're already thinking along similar lines, ie some of the payment would be in kind, for example babysitting services where no money would change hands - all agreed in advance, of course.
  • Soot2006
    Soot2006 Posts: 2,184 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    Knock a door into the wall ... keep it locked ;).
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,691 Forumite
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    Re: "Occupier with Basic Protection" this
    http://mobile.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/renting_and_leasehold/private_tenancies/occupiers_with_basic_protection
    from the excellent Shelter web-site outlines rights of tenants in such circumstances...

    Cheers!

    Lodger
  • Jelliebeen
    Jelliebeen Posts: 331 Forumite
    With regards to paying council tax on self contained annexes, this is something I sent to my parents who have a granny flat they let as holiday accommodation:

    http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/resources/property-news/rental-news/self-contained-annexes-could-be-banded-for-council-tax/a-2-56-1707/
  • parisjordana
    parisjordana Posts: 365 Forumite
    i read this with total interest because we are in the exact same position as yourselves.....
    :hello:Time2start a new year diet for a new me:j
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 18,871 Forumite
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    Jelliebeen wrote: »
    With regards to paying council tax on self contained annexes, this is something I sent to my parents who have a granny flat they let as holiday accommodation:

    http://www.holidaylettings.co.uk/resources/property-news/rental-news/self-contained-annexes-could-be-banded-for-council-tax/a-2-56-1707/

    This article is about 16 years too late!! "Granny flats" have been liable for separate CT band since start 1 April 1993.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • Jelliebeen
    Jelliebeen Posts: 331 Forumite
    Thanks for correcting me! Maybe they're just starting to enforce the CT banding now, was it pretty much unenforced before? My parents don't pay two lots of CT...
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