Bullying at work and sick pay help

JACK2009

Hi
I have today wrote a third letter to the company stating my suggestions and are waiting there replies. As my manager seem reluctant to answer my suggestions could i be that he taking the bullies side over mine?. Is it best to seek advice from another manager in the firm?.

maninthestreet

Why is that the police seem to think assaults that take place in a work place aren't criminal matters?

JACK2009

maninthestreet wrote: »

Why is that the police seem to think assaults that take place in a work place aren't criminal matters?

i don't know, technically it's assault so surely it should be irrelevant where it happens. Shall i contact them again.

I Feel that because the company has done nothing to resolve this are they trying to drive me out or even get me on grounds of incapability even though I'm the victim. Can they have me on those grounds even though i've not been there. Or is there somethings i could say to them?. Thanks for all the support.

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JACK2009 wrote: »

i don't know, technically it's assault so surely it should be irrelevant where it happens. Shall i contact them again.

I Feel that because the company has done nothing to resolve this are they trying to drive me out or even get me on grounds of incapability even though I'm the victim. Can they have me on those grounds even though i've not been there. Or is there somethings i could say to them?. Thanks for all the support.

I'd call the police again. Tell them you want them to investigate it but if they are not prepared to do that you want to report it as a crime and want a crime ref no. This you can show to your manager, use as part of grievance or any future tribunial.

Emloyers can & do try everything to avoid accepting responsibility for stuff like this and avoid 'wasting' money by for things which are not to their benefit, ie sick pay etc.

I would direct a letter to the most senior manager, that is what I did when it happened to me. I laid out my complaint but made it clear but subtle I felt they were trying to get rid of me and that I felt this would be constructive dismissal. Thats when they invited me to a meeting with my DH and offered me new role in a new team. Problem still not gone completly but *shrugs*.

Your grievance procedure should have something within it that allows you to complain higher/elsewhere if the problem is being not solved or if the person 'investigating' it is also/now part of the grievance.

JACK2009

Thankyou for all your replies.

I had my grievence meeting the other day about the bullying issue and I have some good and bad news over it.

The company didn't come up with any sugguestions on how to make the working environment better to me. I stated that the company was adware there was a bullying issue going on but they didn't want to try and resolve it. As anybody got any advice on what to do now.

They want me to go back to the same conditions as before, but i feel the same will occur again and I will become axicous and possibly collaspe. My doctor is concerned this is what might happen. The onlything my manager said was he will do his upmost to keep this bloke awayfrom me. Should I ask for this is writing and signed by him and other people.

Should I now seek further legal advice,await the minutes and comment on them or ask the police again.

Thanks for your time and replies.

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Yes you want the discussion and their proposal in writing. Put your request to them in writing, email is good as it proves it was sent to a court etc and it's quicker, if you send a letter send it special delivery for the proof of delivery.
Who was there with you, someone I hope?
Did you get a crime reference no from the police last time?
The desicion is totally yours and it's a big one not to be taken lightly, however I do feel you should not risk your health. Nor should you have to accept violence in the work place. Your doctor is backing you and you would have a case for constructive dismissal. Go see a lawyer asap, is there any free advice serervices near you? Community legal centre, employment rights advice? If not most solicitors will sit down with you for an hour to see if you ahv a case and will operate on no win no fee.

Lincoln_Imp

As andygb has mentioned it sounds like a case for constructive dismissal
some info here
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/RedundancyAndLeavingYourJob/Dismissal/DG_10026696

You shouldnt have to put up with ANY kind of bullying at work and your Employers must act on it
I feel for you and hope it all turns out right in the end

JACK2009

After thinking over the weekend about my problem I beleive the company don't want to do anything. When I went to this meeting I hoped for sugguestions from them about how they would make it safe for me to return. Nothing come from them. As you know I put my proposals over about working in two different depoartments but there respoince about this is "It's not practicle" is there anything I do if they respond in their outcome letter that they plan to do nothing.

Thankyou

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JACK2009 wrote: »

As you know I put my proposals over about working in two different depoartments but there respoince about this is "It's not practicle" is there anything I do if they respond in their outcome letter that they plan to do nothing.

Thankyou

I would find a solicitor that specialises in employment law and go see them on Monday, dont wait for their letter, that could take time and they may delay sending it. Time is very important in employment law, you only have 3 months to put a claim in from the date you exhauste the grievance procedure or put your notice in. If when you receive the letter it says something else which is helpful you can work on that, until then you have to work on the basis it will say what they told you in that meeting.

Google "employment law centre" or "community legal centre" for your town/nearest city, if you cant find one any solicitor that deals with employment law will do and ring them up when they are open and get an appointment ASAP.

As Lincon IMP and andygb have already said, if you hand your notice in over this you will have a case for constructive dismissal, but you only have the right to put that claim to a tribunal for 3 months. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/RedundancyAndLeavingYourJob/DG_10026696