Does walking burn fat?

Lunar_Eclipse

Ted_Hutchinson wrote: »

Then I am sure you will be able to find good scientific studies lasting over a year that show that simply increasing exercise is an effective way of losing weight and keeping it off?

I am not familiar with the ins and outs of the diet you are on, but many diets including Atkins & South Beach (low carb) along with Food Combining do mention tricking your body/digestive system with the foods you eat, so I think it's okay to use the term in the way I did. If you feel I'm not being fair to specific diets, that's okay too.

Re: insulin. I am aware that without insulin release the body cannot accumulate fat, thus eating fat in the absence of carbs means your body will not store the fat - unlike eating it with carbs. (I think this could be described as a trick.)

Anyway, I'm not arguing with you. I have agreed with what you have said, but stated that 'your way' is not the only way. It would appear that you disagree. And seriously, do you really need scientific studies to prove that exercise helps keep you slim (& healthy?) It would be far quicker to just look at professional athletes who do a lot of exercise and see how many of them are over weight. I'm really not interested in debating this on a scientific level. I only wanted to point out that there is not only one way to lose weight and that exercise helps. That's all.

Ted_Hutchinson

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

I didn't;

What you wrote was Our Eastern neighbours have always consumed lots of rice, but they did not generally get obese like the rest of us. Why? Because they never consumed excessive calories
The reason they didn't consume excessive calories is simply because rice is not a Dangerous Grain it does not have the addictive potential that products made from wheat contain. The opioid-like peptides released from gluten during digestion are powerful drugs, strong suppressors of the immune system and quite addictive.

but AFAIK rice is a carbohydrate.

Indeed and for someone who has got into an obese situation and who has already developed metabolic syndrome, insulin resistance then it is better to avoid it.
I still haven't gone back to eating rice.

southernscouser

OP, if you've read this far, congratulations.

There are a couple of things you can do. Obviously diet is one. Exercise is the other.

You can do all the exercise in the world but if you eat the wrong foods and too much of it, you won't loose weight.

However, don't take that to mean you should neglect exercise. It aids to weight loss when eating a sensible diet, but probably more importantly it makes you healthier. Your heart and lungs will benefit, your muscles and bones will benefit and what is often forgotten is your brain will benefit.

Sorry if that sounds like I'm teaching you to suck eggs! :undecided

A good exercise for burning fat is interval training. It's more beneficial than flat rate jogging as you're pushing your heart rate into the 'cardio zone' rather than just 'fat burning zone'. Basically it's a series of sprints and then jogging/walking.

Plenty about it on the internet. Just google Interval Training or HIIT.

Ted_Hutchinson

Lunar_Eclipse wrote: »

I am not familiar with the ins and outs of the diet you are on,

Dr Dahlqvist's planContains all there is to know about it.

but many diets including Atkins & South Beach (low carb) along with Food Combining do mention tricking your body/digestive system with the foods you eat, so I think it's okay to use the term in the way I did.
If you feel I'm not being fair to specific diets, that's okay too.

Well as there is nothing tricky about giving your body the food it evolved to deal with best I feel it is dishonest and misleading to give the impression that you are in some way tricking it into not behaving naturally.

Re: insulin. I am aware that without insulin release the body cannot accumulate fat, thus eating fat in the absence of carbs means your body will not store the fat - unlike eating it with carbs. (I think this could be described as a trick.)

No it isn't a trick. Your body is not being tricked into not storing fat rather it is the other way round.
Eating carbs year round is tricking your body into thinking it's winter and time to store fat. That is one of the reasons why low vitamin D status is thought to promote fat storage. Naturally there would only be a glut of carbs in the Autumn when storage of surplus calories prior to winter provides an evolutionary advantage.

but stated that 'your way' is not the only way. It would appear that you disagree.
And seriously, do you really need scientific studies to prove that exercise

YES I am serious we are being dishonest to equate exercise with weight loss. The two are not directly connected and it is wrong to give the impression they are. If it were a direct causal connection then there would be plenty of research studies showing doubling the amount of exercise halved the obesity crisis and in fact it's the opposite. We have as a nation consumed less fat and have exercised more and it's not made a scrap of difference to the obesity situation. We are as a nation wasting money promoting tired old remedies that don't work and should concentrate our efforts on methods that do have a basis in science and can be proved to work.

helps keep you slim (& healthy?)

Well I'm glad you put the ? there. If you hadn't I would have posted a link to the research showing that the slimmest people are not the most healthy. In fact the slightly plump live longer.

It would be far quicker to just look at professional athletes who do a lot of exercise and see how many of them are over weight.

and how many of them are ill much of the time? Being an athlete is not a healthy way of life.

lostinrates

I've been reading all of this with interest.

One of the things that struck me was that if we are looking at evolution in diet we should perhaps also look at evolution in energy expenditure. There is no doubt we ''do'' a lot less than even fairly recent ancestors physiclly, in general.

I do know I ''feel'' less well eating complex carbs: the pastas/breads etc. I also know I felt really, really unwell eating lots of meat and eggs when tryin atkins. I find dairy really suits me and suports weitloss and feeling healthy when I know a lot of people feel otherwise. Dairy was ofcourse, in evolutionary terms, a fairly late addition to our diets, but it works for me.

southernscouser

Ted_Hutchinson wrote: »

Greater improvements in waist circumference and body composition occurred when carbohydrate is replaced in the diet with protein.

But are the real benefits because you are getting rid of carbs, or because you are consuming more protein? Probably both.

After all, protein is the building block of muscles, and muscle burns 10 times as many calories as fat does.

Want to burn fat? Put on more muscle.

Ted_Hutchinson

southernscouser wrote: »

But are the real benefits because you are getting rid of carbs, or because you are consuming more protein? Probably both

No you need to increase fat intake not protein to make a low carb diet work best.

Maybe male readers would be more interested in cutting carbs if they realised what raised insulin did to their masculinity.
What men knowingly want to reduce their testosterone levels?
Those who do can continue to raise their insulin levels.

I pointed out earlier how Higher vitamin D status results in greater weight loss, how many here are aware that higher vitamin D status improves fertility?

Ted_Hutchinson

lostinrates wrote: »

One of the things that struck me was that if we are looking at evolution in diet we should perhaps also look at evolution in energy expenditure. There is no doubt we ''do'' a lot less than even fairly recent ancestors physiclly, in general.

There are some amusing graphs here showing how despite more exercise the UK male continues to get fatter.

Stephan's blog here on Exercise and bodyfat also shows that primitive cultures do not necessarily spend a lot of energy overall. Tokelauans who migrated to New Zealand saw a particularly large weight gain, gaining 22 pounds (10 kg) over the same time period. Their diet became even more Westernized than their relatives who remained on Tokelau. The authors of the Tokelau Island Migrant study felt that "most of the migrants expend greater energy in their work than is currently the case in Tokelau."

Exercise Didn't Keep Us From Getting Fat

Sharon87

Hmm this is an interesting thread. It seems as if Ted wants everyone to try the diet he is on, as he gives the impression he knows all. Most doctors (maybe not the one Ted's so keen on) say that we need carbs for a healthy diet - not too many carbs and the right ones.

As has been said - just because the diet works for you doesn't mean everyone else will love it. From the looks of it (by googling the diet) it seems very much like Atkins. I watched this programme on BBC iplayer that a person doing Atkins (very similar to yours) had bad consequences, her breath really smelled bad and she sweated buckets and the sweat smelt of whatever she ate, so mostly meat. The dietician on the programme says that carbs are good as it gives you essential nutrients like fibre and B vitamins. I don't think you should encourage people not to eat carbs - as they are needed as part of a balanced and healthy diet.

Back on topic - walking isn't the most effective way of burning fat like others have said, but if you enjoy walking you should continue. I'm going to take up Tae Kwon Do again (martial arts for those that don't know), as I want to get my fitness levels up and lose weight. I think it will help me as when I quit (10 years ago), that was when I started putting on weight. I was stick thin before then!

Ted_Hutchinson

Sharon87 wrote: »

Hmm this is an interesting thread. It seems as if Ted wants everyone to try the diet he is on, as he gives the impression he knows all.

I take the trouble to check that there is good science that supports my point of view. I make no secret of the fact that I think people who cannot prove what they say is scientifically accurate are fools.

Most doctors (maybe not the one Ted's so keen on) say that we need carbs for a healthy diet - not too many carbs and the right ones.

I think most doctors have as much knowledge as diet as they do about vitamin D3. In the same way they put the best interests of big pharma before the best interests of their patients by only prescribing the least effective most expensive form of D3 (that many elderly people cannot use at all) they also put the best interests of the diet industry before the needs of patients. One only had to look at the NICE obesity guidelines and compare those with the Stakeholders of The National Obesity Forum to see whose best interests are being looked after first.

. I watched this programme on BBC iplayer that a person doing Atkins (very similar to yours) had bad consequences, her breath really smelled bad and she sweated buckets and the sweat smelt of whatever she ate, so mostly meat. The dietician on the programme says that carbs are good as it gives you essential nutrients like fibre and B vitamins.

If you had followed the links provided you would have seen that although Dr Dahlqvist's plan is similar to the Ongoing Weight Loss stage of Atkins it avoids the induction period of less than 20g carbs daily. You will also find that Coconut oil is recommended from BEFORE starting this way of eating so the body more readily adjusts to the swap in fuel source. The kind of ignorant scaremonerging we see here reflects very badly on the ethical integrity of those whose knowledge is so limited they are unable to come up with any good scientific evidence to support their ludicrous nonsense.

I don't think you should encourage people not to eat carbs - as they are needed as part of a balanced and healthy diet.

Think before you post.
So before agriculture was invented how did the human race survive evolution without refined carbohydrates?
Dr Dahlqvist's plan encourages unlimited above ground vegetables and most fruits.
In fact there are many vegetarians who follow an Atkins style diet with better health outcomes than the standard diet see The Effect of a Plant-Based Low-Carbohydrate ("Eco-Atkins") Diet on Body Weight and Blood Lipid Concentrations in Hyperlipidemic Subjects

As I have repeatedly pointed out I am NOT against exercise as there is plenty of evidence pointing out the benefits for heart and brain health. The evidence to support it's use in Weight Loss is limited and poor and while it may make some difference to some people it should not be promoted as a first choice weight loss method as that will fail most people.

Stopping eating those foods that have addictive properties will stop hunger cravings and therefore will lead to a lower calorie intake without the necessity for starvation.

Would we suggest to an alcoholic to curb their cravings by having a good portion of alcohol 3 times daily and maybe a small portion between meals?

We would laugh at such a proposal but that is exactly what our dietitians suggest for those with diabetes.

Would any social worker remain in post if they suggested as a way of curbing child abuse, that regular smacking several times a day was a good way to instill discipline?

It would be criminally insane to do so wouldn't it.

So why this obsession with ensuring everyone gets regular doses throughout the day of the one substance that makes them accumulate fat?