pls help-can some one please tell minimum requirements for burying cable in wall-than

BillTrac

withabix wrote: »

There IS a minimum requirement: The work must ALL be done or certified by a qualified electrician, not a 'builder'.

Actually, although I have been out of the game for several years ( well 25 to be honest) I am a time served electrician with A,B and C c & g, and to 16th edition, but nothing since. I said best because I don't know who is doing the work from the first post, I would have hoped the OP was using a 17th edition sparkie.

No real details on what work was actually being done or new or replacement.

The builder can do the work it doesn't have to be a sparkie BUT if new/required then it has to be Part P certified, which can be done by any monkey willing to outlay £400 per year. I thought about getting Part P a few years ago, but as I was only doing favours it was not cost effective for me.

That is why I said best to run cables horizontally and vertically, not diagonally but I am old school as well.

Cknocker

I can think of no real sensible reason to run a cable diagonally.

First off it increases your chances of hitting it accidentally, as when vertical and horizontal it is obvious where the wiring is likely to be. The argument seems to be its safe to hit it as it is RCD protected, to me that a crazy system of working.

Once you hit it you still have to repair it, if its not in trunking, that means you're going to have to cut out a section of wall and put a junction box in. At least if its in trunking you can pull the cable out in its entirity and replace.

macman

mumofjusttwo wrote: »

thanks. He has told me that he isn't qualified and I don't feel that I want him working on the rest of the kitchen as there has been issues.

I will need to find a Part P registered builder/ electrician to fix the work!! and the work top and the units etc!!

The problem you have now is that if the work has been covered by plaster/units etc, then no other sparky is going to be willing to certify it without ripping it out and starting again. They won't take responsibility for signing off work not done by them that cannot be checked-and rightly so.

mumofjusttwo

I know that it will need to be ripped out . thankfully(?) some of the units needed adjusting so will take it from there.

Having someone round tomorrow to have a look at it and see what he says.

I would be worried if they would be willing to certify something that was not their own work.

macman

Maybe you should get a proper electrician to do the electrical work first, and then a kitchen fitter to sort out any unit problems. Some kitchen fitters may be Part P qualified, but not all are.

mumofjusttwo

That was what I was planning. The man who is coming round tomorrow is a builder but knows an electrician to do the electric work.

Here is hoping that this will work out better.

macman

mumofjusttwo wrote: »

That was what I was planning. The man who is coming round tomorrow is a builder but knows an electrician to do the electric work.

Here is hoping that this will work out better.

Make sure that the sparky is Part P qualified (not just qualified). If you use that phrase he'll know that you know what you are talking about. And then ask to see his paperwork. If he is qualified he will have no problem with you asking this.

mumofjusttwo

THanks so much . i will be sure to ask them. don't want to get stung twice.

baldelectrician

The electrician should have some ID.
The electrician should be on one of the registers (see below). Check their name on the register

All you need to ask is for the kitchen electrics brought up to the current BS 7671 (electrical wiring regs)cert and a certificate issued along with building control certificate (the Part P bit)

You should use a competent person for the work, links below
In Scotland:
Individuals registered;
http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/ListAC.asp
Companies
http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/Sear...struction&ID=2
In England and Wales:
http://www.competentperson.co.uk

mumofjusttwo

THanks

If I choose someone who is a competent person and with Elecsa does that mean that I shouldn't get a cowboy?

The fitter that was going to do the fitting came round and said that he could do the electrics but I am going to get a competent person to do it. Just trying to find the best one for the job.

I am really surprised that the Partt P certificate wasn't mentioned more when it came into affect as I was not aware of it all. Typical when i knew an electrician and didn't need to worry :rolleyes: