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Jobseekers allowance

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  • busy_mom_2
    busy_mom_2 Posts: 1,391 Forumite
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    well crazyshady you obviously don't sign at the office I work at then:mad:
    Everybody who makes a claim to jobseekers allowance will be asked why they are no longer working, if they state laid off unless we know a particular company are having redundancies a form is always sent to the previous employer, obviously if they don't reply there isn't a lot that can be done but if they write back and state you left or were sacked then no benfit, and serves you right for lying. :rolleyes:
  • crazyshady
    crazyshady Posts: 329 Forumite
    Well ive always said its been temp jobs or contract jobs and no questions have ever been asked. Never seen one of these fancy forms you supposedly send to the 'employers'. Must be a thing thats done 'down south' cause it sure as hell doesnt happen up here.
  • balustrada
    balustrada Posts: 57 Forumite
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    Jaq wrote: »
    Hi, I am just about to leave my job as I have been bullied at work, it has not been possible to sort the problem and now I just want to go. If I leave voluntarily does that stop me claiming jobseekers allowance? thanks for any help

    So far as a claim for Jobseekers Allowance is concerned there are three main issues that would need to be investigated. The first is whether you did all that you reasonably could to try and resolve your grievances (about the bullying) through your employer and/or trade union before you left. The second is whether there is any medical evidence to suggest that staying in the job would have adversely affected your health. The third is what efforts you made to find another job (to avoid becoming unemployed) before you left. The more evidence that there is to support each of those issues, the less likelihood there is of a sanction being imposed. If a sanction is imposed and you think it is wrong you will still have the right to appeal to an independent tribunal.
  • busy_mom_2
    busy_mom_2 Posts: 1,391 Forumite
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    Its not a fancy form and i'm not 'down south'. All resons as to why a job has been teminated should be investigated and the form doesn't go via you to the employer. if you have only signed for a short term by the time the form has been returned, if at all by the employer, it would then go to a decision maker or be investigated further and you probably wouldn't even be aware of it.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    crazyshady wrote: »
    Well ive always said its been temp jobs or contract jobs and no questions have ever been asked. Never seen one of these fancy forms you supposedly send to the 'employers'. Must be a thing thats done 'down south' cause it sure as hell doesnt happen up here.

    Doesn't make it legal and doesn't make it right!
  • Jaq_2
    Jaq_2 Posts: 8 Forumite
    Thanks to all of you who were good enough to reply. I have been going through the complaints proceedure at work, still don't know how it will go! Wish me luck!
    Thanks again for all the advice!! xxxx
  • 306NOTOUT
    306NOTOUT Posts: 654 Forumite
    busy_mom wrote: »
    Its not a fancy form and i'm not 'down south'. All resons as to why a job has been teminated should be investigated and the form doesn't go via you to the employer. if you have only signed for a short term by the time the form has been returned, if at all by the employer, it would then go to a decision maker or be investigated further and you probably wouldn't even be aware of it.

    No that is not 100% true. It is up to the EO as to whether the form is sent off to the company. Not all reasons are questioned either, especially if it is for an Agency;) for instance up to a couple of years ago ANY job you had in the last 6 months prior to claiming benefit could be investigated for LV.

    That has changed now and it is only your LAST job which can be investigated, so you could have been in a job for 12 years. Leave on the Friday and you can't claim benefit for 6 months. BUT if you leave on the Friday and start work at a Agency on the Monday then that is a totally different job and there is no way they cant contact the previous employer. As it is an Agency they will not send the LV forms to them as it would be "short term contract".

    Nothing the department can do in that instance.:beer:
    We took on Mr T and we won:D

    Shame it had to end, will have to get free stuff from comps now :beer:
  • Amber07
    Amber07 Posts: 330 Forumite
    You should persevere with the complaints procedure (who exactly is bullying you and what form does it take)

    Then apply for constructive dismissal if nothing is done about it.
    Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. :cheesy:
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    Naykon wrote: »
    EXACTLY the same position here, they persist on getting more detail.. problem is i gave them a different story as to why i left (didn't want to admit bullying)... i don't think they're buying it and im going to lose my JSA i think....

    if i was a minority group im sure it wouldn't be a problem though

    A pretty ignorant attitude, especially from someone that claims to have been bullied.
    Gone ... or have I?
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Naykon wrote: »

    if i was a minority group im sure it wouldn't be a problem though

    The way in which people down on their luck turn to racism and bigotry never fails to appal me!:mad:

    If you're having problems because of your lies, don't blame anyone but yourself.
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