Parking fine at University

furry_tractor

is this likely to bring any ramafications, if so what and is it worth the £30 they want me to pay now?

Horace

If its the University of Birmingham then they have very stringent rules about who uses their carparks - some of them are pay and display but you need to use an ID card to swipe in and out. You would need to display some kind of permit on your car as well - these are colour coded according to what type of parking you are entitled to use.

At the University of Birmingham, they will clamp you as well and should have their byelaws clearly noted - they usually do their best to comply with the law. BTW the Security Officers at the University of Birmingham do hold the correct licence for clamping and ticketting.

adouglasmhor

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Surely they couldn't do that if no-one has said who the driver was?

Ignore it OP, certainly don't admit to anyone who the driver was on the day. They can't enforce anything against the registered keeper if they cannot prove he/she was the driver - with whom they might otherwise argue they had some sort of dodgy contract.

People only pay these 'fines' because they don't know they don't have to.

That's why I said be careful what info you give them, they did it to a guy at Glasgow uni who had been parking for years, he ended up shelling out a small fortune. Anyway as OP is not at that uni no proplem there.

oldone_2

poet123 wrote: »

So, are no private companies able to legally enforce parking restrictions on privately owned land?

I work at a college and we (students and staff ) pay an annual fee(different amounts) to park. We also have the fines dished out for not having the permit, and for not being "properly parked" in the designated bays.

Are both these "infringements" not legally enforcable by the college or their agents? If so, why do people pay them? as I know they have done? and why does an employer put up legally unenforcable notices? It makes them look stupid imo.

Of course your college can legally enforce parking on its land - what it can't do is is charge infringements at such a high rate it becomes a penalty.A court of law would take a very dim view of this, since only they can impose fines and penalties.

Look at it this way.If your permit costs £350 a year, that is a pound a day.If you parked for a day without showing your permit, the college are entitled to claim a £1, what they can't do is 'fine' you £50 or £60. In this scenario, as you have a permit, the college has made no loss, so cannot even justify the pound charge.

furry_tractor

no its not birmingham university and there is nothing stated on the ticket about any laws or anything, its on university headed paper and the only thing it really has thats anywhere near official is about getting details from the dvla and that its the security officer that deals with it. this is why i doubted its legitimacy from the start.

sarahg1969

Perhaps they should have consulted someone in their law department befure issuing Fixed Penalty Notices?

furry_tractor

sarahg1969 wrote: »

Perhaps they should have consulted someone in their law department befure issuing Fixed Penalty Notices?

is this actually a legal thing? i didnt even think of it as being legal terminology only usable by police, just that its a fixed penalty that they are notifying me of

pogofish

adouglasmhor wrote: »

If you do not pay the fines, some universities have been known to stop you from graduating. So be careful what info you give them.

This will not happen here

Coblcris

Horace wrote: »

If its the University of Birmingham then they have very stringent rules about who uses their carparks - some of them are pay and display but you need to use an ID card to swipe in and out. You would need to display some kind of permit on your car as well - these are colour coded according to what type of parking you are entitled to use.

At the University of Birmingham, they will clamp you as well and should have their byelaws clearly noted - they usually do their best to comply with the law. BTW the Security Officers at the University of Birmingham do hold the correct licence for clamping and ticketting.

University Byelaws ? ? ?

How on earth does a University have statutory authority to create byelaws ? ? ?

And just what is this 'licence for ticketing' ? ?

Horace, I fear you are not helping.


to the OP, just ignore the PPC. they just send letters..

pogofish

furry_tractor wrote: »

no its not birmingham university and there is nothing stated on the ticket about any laws or anything, its on university headed paper and the only thing it really has thats anywhere near official is about getting details from the dvla and that its the security officer that deals with it. this is why i doubted its legitimacy from the start.

Crikey!

If you get any comeback at all, don't waste your time writing to them.

Just go straight to the Principal with this:

The Administration of Justice Act 1970.

Section 40 of the act provides that a person commits an offence if, with the object of coercing another person to pay money claimed from the other as a debt due under contract, he or she:
harasses the other with demands for payment which by their frequency, or the manner or occasion of their making, or any accompanying threat or publicity are calculated to subject him or his family or household to alarm, distress or humiliation;
falsely represents, in relation to the money claimed, that criminal proceedings lie for failure to pay it;
falsely represent themselves to be authorised in some official capacity to claim or enforce payment;
utters a document falsely represented by him to have some official character or purporting to have some official character which he knows it has not.

Or the Police as it is now a criminal matter

The security officer's !!!! won't touch the ground!