Used Car problems

MrSmartprice

BYALPHAINDIA wrote: »

Oh Dear,

So you are saying that EVERY car dealer goes by the Book of consumer law then?

Because coming from experience, Some of the used car traders I have dealt with go by their OWN law.

If someone pays 2 - 400 pounds for a car I doubt that they will expect the Trader/s to be sympethetic or refund any money as the car is sold as seen?

They could however make a claim in the small claims court against the Trader/s if they refused help to repair the car etc.

When I have bought used cars, They always said it is sold as seen before we shook hands on a deal.

I never expected any warranty and if so not more than 1 months warranty.

But I know what faults to spot on a used car, So I have never had any major problems with Trader/s.

I notice that you have x amount of posts on here, But I don't think that you are qualified to say that my replies are 'Illinformed.

This forum is for different opinions to be aired.

This is not the first axe grind with you is it...?

You really do beggar belief! You may well be a 'Junkpile Jockey' when it comes to motoring, that much is obvious. But your poverty seems to extend to your knowledge of the law, too.

'Sold as Seen' is an illegal statement, under the 'Consumer Transactions (Restrictions on Statements) Regulations. Traders can, and have been, prosecuted for this practice as it seeks to deny the purchaser their rights. How difficult is that to understand?

And just for the record, I was a Trading Standards Officer for 25 years, a job which requires a statutory qualification. So, yes, I am qualified to tell you that your statements are wrong, and that you are talking rubbish.:p

As for grinding axes with you, why would I bother......:D

motorguy

LandyAndy wrote: »

Except that the op specifically says that they bought it 'trade' not as a private buyer from a trader.

I don't see how a trade sale is covered by the SoG Act.

If the buyer is a private buyer, then whether or not is was described as a 'trade' sale by the trader, then the O/P has statutory rights as they are a private buyer.

The term 'trade sale' is used often by traders as a way to get out of their obligations.

Chippy_Minton_2

Seems like we have different views on what a trade sale is.

Do we know what problems the car has?

motorguy

Chippy_Minton wrote: »

Seems like we have different views on what a trade sale is.

Do we know what problems the car has?

I'm an ex car trader, so i recall the intricacies well.

It does as you say though depend on what the problems are, and also the cost of the car. If its a blown exhaust on a £300 banger, then thats a different ball game to a faulty ECU on a £10K car.

Unfortunately the O/P hasnt come back to update us in the meantime - so we'll just make it up and argue about it anyway

MrSmartprice

pgilc1 wrote: »

If the buyer is a private buyer, then whether or not is was described as a 'trade' sale by the trader, then the O/P has statutory rights as they are a private buyer.

The term 'trade sale' is used often by traders as a way to get out of their obligations.

The use of the term 'trade sale' would be unlawful if it was clearly a sale to a consumer. As you say, it is another way of trying to avoid the law. Traders selling from home also try to disguise the fact that they are traders, another offence. A court would regard a 'trade sale' as a transaction between two buisnesses, even if not both car dealers.

Even private sellers have some obligations under the law. They cannot sell a car in an unroadworthy condition. Also, they are not completely exempt under Sale of Goods legislation. The 'as described' provisions apply to traders and individuals alike. So if a private seller says something like 'excellent condition' in an advertisement the buyer has a comeback.