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FTB: As big a deposit as possible, or keep some emergency savings?

Hiya

I'm a FTB and am after some advice about the deposit. I've searched the boards and haven't come across an answer to this question, but if it already exists apologies for posting again.

I'm in the process of buying a house and have agreed a deposit of 15% which is from savings. However, I do have another £2000 left over (and another additional (to normal income) of £3000 coming in within the next couple of months). The question is should I stretch to the biggest deposit possible to begin with, or should I save something back for emergencies? If I put the extra £2000 down this would mean a deposit of 17%. Not much difference, so is it worth it?

Thanks for any advice :)
Previous debt: £14K :embarasse Debt free: Sept '03 :DMFW#42 Mortgage OP savings £4271.18/£12000 2019 :)Started dating OH Mar '12, married Oct '12, Walnut born Dec ' 12 :A SPC 12: 99 £38.05/£500 Make money Jan: £412.34/£310 :T Feb: £88.79/£280 May: £215.52/£310 June: £18.98/£300
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  • HGLTsuperstar
    HGLTsuperstar Posts: 1,904 Forumite
    But have you budgeted for solicitors, mortgage arrangement fees, removal costs, stamp duty.....
  • MushyPeas
    MushyPeas Posts: 3,104 Forumite
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    Hiya

    I've already paid the mortgage arrangement fees and have budgeted for the other costs, about another £3000 put by for those. Sorry, should have said at start :)
    Previous debt: £14K :embarasse Debt free: Sept '03 :DMFW#42 Mortgage OP savings £4271.18/£12000 2019 :)Started dating OH Mar '12, married Oct '12, Walnut born Dec ' 12 :A SPC 12: 99 £38.05/£500 Make money Jan: £412.34/£310 :T Feb: £88.79/£280 May: £215.52/£310 June: £18.98/£300
  • aliasojo
    aliasojo Posts: 23,053 Forumite
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    Personally I would have as large a deposit as poss. No point in paying anymore interest than you have to.

    I'm about to empty our bank to send a lump sum to our mortgage. I figure if anything springs up that I haven't accounted for then I can aways fall back on a cc for a short time.
    Herman - MP for all! :)
  • HelpWhereIcan
    HelpWhereIcan Posts: 1,343 Forumite
    One thing you may be able to do (if your mortgage deal allows) is to overpay the extra (as a lump sum overpayment after completion obviously). Some deals allow you to 'borrow back' any overpayments which could give you the best of both worlds. Having the money accesible in an emergency (generally 5 working days) and, at the same time, saving the amount of interest you pay as the overpayment reduces the balance on which you are being charged interest until you borrow back the overpayment. Check if this possible with your adviser before you decide.

    I would doubt that the extra deposit could, in itself, get you an lower rate as the bands generally tend to be 75%, 80%, 85%, 90% and 95%. However, you may find that needing to borrow even £2000 less may bring in lenders and deals that may not be currently available due to the income multiple that you may need to get the loan, but the chances of you being so much better off that it is worth paying a new set of valation fees etc are slim.

    Get some advice from a whole of market broker who will be able to assess your circumstances and objectives in full.

    Hope this helps
    I am an IFA (and boss o' t'swings idst)
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as an IFA, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • MushyPeas
    MushyPeas Posts: 3,104 Forumite
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    aliasojo wrote:
    Personally I would have as large a deposit as poss. No point in paying anymore interest than you have to.

    I'm about to empty our bank to send a lump sum to our mortgage. I figure if anything springs up that I haven't accounted for then I can aways fall back on a cc for a short time.

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    One thing you may be able to do (if your mortgage deal allows) is to overpay the extra (as a lump sum overpayment after completion obviously). Some deals allow you to 'borrow back' any overpayments which could give you the best of both worlds.

    Hiya

    Thanks for the advice from both of you. I've just had the survey done on the house and some work needs doing, which I think means I can lower the offer a bit? I'll talk to my mortgage advisor to see how much affect the extra money will have on my monthly payments. If only £20-£30 difference a month I might save it as an 'emergency' pot, just in case. From becoming a person who was in debt, to now has a large (well to me anyway) savings pot, having nothing saved suddenly seems really scary!!
    Previous debt: £14K :embarasse Debt free: Sept '03 :DMFW#42 Mortgage OP savings £4271.18/£12000 2019 :)Started dating OH Mar '12, married Oct '12, Walnut born Dec ' 12 :A SPC 12: 99 £38.05/£500 Make money Jan: £412.34/£310 :T Feb: £88.79/£280 May: £215.52/£310 June: £18.98/£300
  • MushyPeas wrote:
    Hiya

    Thanks for the advice from both of you. I've just had the survey done on the house and some work needs doing, which I think means I can lower the offer a bit? I'll talk to my mortgage advisor to see how much affect the extra money will have on my monthly payments. If only £20-£30 difference a month I might save it as an 'emergency' pot, just in case. From becoming a person who was in debt, to now has a large (well to me anyway) savings pot, having nothing saved suddenly seems really scary!!

    For what it is worth- i agree with this course of action and the post above from my collegue HWIC- it is very sensible to have an emergency fund- You could always pay it back if your mortgage allows ( normally 10% penalty free ) but when it is paid off, it is normally much harder to get it back.

    Get used to the mortgage repayments and home ownership costs before making a capital repayment.

    SS
    I am a fee charging WoM Mortgage broker.
    I now no longer give information and opinion within the Mortgage boards, because a number of posters who, having approached me professionally, agreed my fee-which has been been made very clear at the outset, taken my advice (normally cancelling a [home visit] meeting at short notice) have then approached one of the fee-free brokers on here to arrange the very same deal I have advised.
    Whilst I totally concur with the ethos of "money saving"- abusing the goodwill of a professional who provides a quality service is taking it too far! :mad:
  • totalguitar
    totalguitar Posts: 166 Forumite
    For what it is worth- i agree with this course of action and the post above from my collegue HWIC- it is very sensible to have an emergency fund- You could always pay it back if your mortgage allows ( normally 10% penalty free ) but when it is paid off, it is normally much harder to get it back.

    Get used to the mortgage repayments and home ownership costs before making a capital repayment.

    SS

    I agree, i'm about to move and i need an £85k mortgage but i'm borrowing £95k. When the move is complete, the house decorated and finished as we want it then i will pay whats left off the mortgage, keeping a good few hundered back as an emergency pot. Also going to pay the full years council tax to save paying it monthly. Might go against the grain a bit but i hate paying it monthly.
  • Also going to pay the full years council tax to save paying it monthly. Might go against the grain a bit but i hate paying it monthly.

    Off tread but- Are you charged interest if you pay monthly?
    I am a fee charging WoM Mortgage broker.
    I now no longer give information and opinion within the Mortgage boards, because a number of posters who, having approached me professionally, agreed my fee-which has been been made very clear at the outset, taken my advice (normally cancelling a [home visit] meeting at short notice) have then approached one of the fee-free brokers on here to arrange the very same deal I have advised.
    Whilst I totally concur with the ethos of "money saving"- abusing the goodwill of a professional who provides a quality service is taking it too far! :mad:
  • MushyPeas
    MushyPeas Posts: 3,104 Forumite
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    Hiya

    Thanks to all from the advice. It's a bit scary being a FTB so I really appreciate everyone's feedback and support. Sometimes it is just useful to ask questions that are worrying me!

    I think I will definately save the 'emergency' fund. I'll feel more comfortable that way.

    Cheers again to all: totalguitar, stanmoresaver, HelpWhereICan, aliasojo

    MP
    Previous debt: £14K :embarasse Debt free: Sept '03 :DMFW#42 Mortgage OP savings £4271.18/£12000 2019 :)Started dating OH Mar '12, married Oct '12, Walnut born Dec ' 12 :A SPC 12: 99 £38.05/£500 Make money Jan: £412.34/£310 :T Feb: £88.79/£280 May: £215.52/£310 June: £18.98/£300
  • Heth_2
    Heth_2 Posts: 472 Forumite
    Hi,
    we are first time buyers and we put down as big a deposit as possible, keeping enough aside for all the fees, stamp duty, moving van etc...For us it was more important though because we just got over the 25% threshold, which meant slightly smaller interest rate on the mortgage and also made the application process easier. Once we move we'll have about 500 pounds in our savings pot (and a couple of hundred spare for some paint) but even with the mortgage we'll be able to save about 200 quid a month to build this up.
    I think it is wise to keep a bit of contigency money, but how much you need depends on your circumstances.
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