Sia license is it worth paying for

Kgosima

jobsearcher48 wrote: »

Ask at the jobcentre as this is one of the industries (security ) that they are promoting free courses for.Just completed one of these myself a few months ago. They paid for my course and my licence.If you have a door supervisor licence you can work in retail,manned guarding or door supervisor work.You do not need an sia licence if you work in-house for a shop,for example but most work is contract and that is not great pay.Door supervisors tend to work as a team,retail work can be more dangerous,manned guarding may be better paid.
He could look at cash in transit jobs.(this may be a different course though-check)

Only go with an sia approved company for training.The course will not train you to do the job I am afraid,it is just the very bare basics plus the criminal record check.The course will teach you the conflict management but again,very basic,not how to do all the restraints that you may need when working in door security.

As Savvy Sue said,it is a lot more about managing conflict rather than creating it-BUT-it does depend on where you work and who you work with. pm me if you want any more info.

Hie I did the door supervisor course myself and passed however i couldn't afford an SIA Licence can they pay for my licence ...?

steve1980

For a door license I think you will struggle to find an employer to pay for it as you could only be at the job a week then leave.

The SIA will not run in it's current form from some stage next year as the government are stopping the funding for it. There are a few rumours about who it will be run by with G4S being the front runner at the moment (As I last heard in January).

pennypitstop_2

OP - have PM'd you.

Butts

I have worked in the Security Industry and as already highlighted the roles and pay can vary considerably depending on the type of assignment involved and employer.

At the "bottom end" of the market the emphasis is working a great number of hours for a poor rate of pay in order to make a half -decent wage.

Sick Pay , Decent Pensions and other benefits are non-existent.

However on some of these low paid sites you spend twelve hours doing whatever you like (playstations , tv , online , sleeping even)
that is how they get people to do the "work" for little pay.

This can be a bonus for students as they can effectively get paid to study. I would say it is a good part-time job for them as you also do 12 hours at a time which may take three days to achieve in some other workplaces.

Another problem is that with most companies each site will probably have a different rate of pay negotiated with the client and this results in the ludicrous situation where you sit on one site getting £7 per hour for doing nothing and minimum wage for working your nuts off on another !!!

The first three jobs to be privatised in any organisation are normally catering cleaning and security - this should tell you something. The value for money the client gets is at the expense of the employees once the TUPE period expires. Who now remembers the fuss when this happened in the NHS a few years ago ? -certainly not the Unions or the other staff - I'm alright Jack ????

Security is an industry that would benefit from the implementation in full of the Working Time Directive that restricts the number of hours an employee can work . Without all the people working 60 hours a week or more in security the rates of pay would rise.

The best types of Security available to joe public are in some Universities , Councils , Galleries and Museums etc where "proper pay and conditions" still exist - but are rapidly disappearing with creeping privatisation.

G4S are one of the biggest private sector employers in the world yet ordinary UK Security Guards get no Company Sick Pay or decent Pension (unless it has changed in the last year). The GMB Union are quoted as saying G4S are "one of the best security companies to work for" despite them having pay and conditions most of it's members would consider "stone age" and be out on strike like a flash if they were subjected to the same package.

steve1980

Butts wrote: »

G4S are one of the biggest private sector employers in the world yet ordinary UK Security Guards get no Company Sick Pay or decent Pension (unless it has changed in the last year). The GMB Union are quoted as saying G4S are "one of the best security companies to work for" despite them having pay and conditions most of it's members would consider "stone age" and be out on strike like a flash if they were subjected to the same package.

You can opt in for a pension with G4S within 12 months of starting.

Butts

steve1980 wrote: »

You can opt in for a pension with G4S within 12 months of starting.

Yes if I remember rightly they match your contribution up to a miniscule level - still I suppose it's better than nothing !!