MONEY MORAL DILEMMA. Would you give up a £50 train seat for a pregnant woman?

easy

Tiger_greeneyes wrote: »

I know the NHS has made a lot of cuts over the years but they aren't that bad that they expect you to sit on a train for five hours to get there :rotfl:

Shows how much you know :mad:

blue_monkey_2

easy, if I had gone by Public Transport to my ante-natal appointments it would have been a 6 hour round trip to get there. Lucky if you are served by good PT links and live on top of a hospital I suppose. I won't count if I had missed the only bus on the last leg home and then had to wait 2 hours for the next one (or if it did not turn up which was not unusual).

When I was pregnant, had I wanted to go and see my mum it was a 4 hour train journey and an hour on the bus, from my house to hers. And if staying overnight I would have had to take a suitcase. :rolleyes:

Forsure_2

Tiger_greeneyes wrote: »

The only people who've said anything harsh are the people who've disagreed with the people who've said 'no'

As for the man jumping into the seat like that, that's typical of commuters in London. I think the main culprits in this are the train companies - there's not enough trains and it costs a fortune to travel. It's not the fault of the commuters per se, my yearly travelcard used to cost me almost £5,000 a year. When you get up at 5.30am, travel for up to 5 hours a day and have a long, busy and knackering day at work, if there's a seat available then why wouldn't you want to sit in it?

One thing I'll never understand is why people choose to travel for leisure reasons during rush hour

Why is it seen as harsh to disagree with someone who has said they wouldnt get up for a pregnant woman ? I really dont understand that.....And this wasnt London, this was a short commute from an area in Liverpool to the centre of Liverpool that only takes me 15 mins to make....seeing as I suffer from SPD and was on crutches, I really needed to sit down, and was making my way into work, so had to get the train. Oh and this isnt one where I could have ' pre booked ' or anything before I start getting a bollocking ! :rotfl:

Ebenezer_Screwj

No. Heavily pregnant women must be held responsible for their own action in travelling alone.

boopydoo

I definitely would- in fact if I didn't have a seat I would soon tap someone on the shoulder and tell them to do it

I was on a very busy train one day and saw an elderly couple get on both with walking sticks and nobody got up I went over and offered them my seat and when the man let his wife take it the young businessman with his ipod in beside me turned in his seat so he was looking out the window as if to make it obvious he wasn't moving. So I tapped him on the shoulder and asked if he wouldn't mind giving up his seat for the lady's husband as he was in more need of it than him.

A little bit of public shame if he didn't move soon got him shifted!!! Fair enough the arguments for booking a seat in advance but not everyone is aware of this service and there shouldn't be a need for it.

A first come first served for seats until those in greater need approach should be adopted

Tiger_greeneyes

Forsure wrote: »

Why is it seen as harsh to disagree with someone who has said they wouldnt get up for a pregnant woman ? I really dont understand that.....And this wasnt London, this was a short commute from an area in Liverpool to the centre of Liverpool that only takes me 15 mins to make....seeing as I suffer from SPD and was on crutches, I really needed to sit down, and was making my way into work, so had to get the train. Oh and this isnt one where I could have ' pre booked ' or anything before I start getting a bollocking ! :rotfl:

Nah, no bollockings from me

I was meaning the harshest words on this thread, not harsh as in disagreeing. Crossed wires.

Tiger_greeneyes

blue_monkey wrote: »

Some specialist scans are not available on the NHS and yes, she might actually have to travel to get to that appointment. :rolleyes:

While you are laughing, have you heard not stories of cancer patients that cannot be treated locally and are sent to hospitals in different parts of the country? Here is one from a few weeks ago for you: http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/2009/05/09/cancer-patient-refused-treatment-because-he-s-from-north-wales-55578-23582694/ Your 'laughing' smiley suggests you have not heard of this.

And you have no idea if she is being checked before her baby is born because of an underlying condition. Her baby might also have something wrong with it and the specialist is in a different part of the country and she is going to see him/her before the birth to see how things are progressing. What a selfish cow she is for going by train! :rolleyes:

Since when has this thread been about cancer or illness? It's PREGNANCY! Didn't you read the original question? Why does everything have to be such a drama? :rolleyes:

Tiger_greeneyes

*CheshireBelle* wrote: »

Thats a bit harsh. When I was pregnant with my son I worked until I was signed off sick at 33 weeks. I got a train and a bus to work every day and the train was generally packed before I even got on. I would have to stand near the doors and usually ended up sitting down in the doorway. A conductor once asked me to get up and the look I gave him shut him up straightaway :rotfl: I never once got near enough to the seats for someone to offer me one!!

Also on long journeys (I used to travel from Leeds to London quite often with work) the company would not pay to reserve me a seat, so if there were no seats I would usually stand until someone was nice enough to offer me a seat.

In answer to the original question I would absolutely without a doubt offer the woman my seat. Knowing how hard it is, I wouldn't hesitate.

How is that harsh when there has been so much personal abuse in this thread?

How on earth can it be harsh if she's putting herself in that position, nobody is forcing her to travel. She's pregnant, not stupid. It's HER choice!

Tiger_greeneyes

blue_monkey wrote: »

How on earth do you know why she is on that train to assume she is a selfish cow that is not putting her child first by travelling on a train. First of all she might not drive so needs to get the train. Or, she could drive but her car has broken down and she needs to get home. Or she lives away from her mum and is going back home where she can be with her mum and give birth, or someone might be seriously ill/had an accident and she needs to go and see them in hospital. There are millions of reasons - and selfishness for not 'booking' is not one of them.

So, she should be made to go in a cab? I for one could not travel by coach when pregnant as it made my sickness worse so that would rule that out for me, plus the toilets on coaches are tiny and there is no way a pregnant woman could travel for 5 hours without using the loo.

Your attitude strikes me as extremely selfish and self centred. Good for you. :rolleyes:

It doesn't matter why she's on the train. Read the first question. There's no drama about it, you're making that up as you go along :rolleyes:

Tiger_greeneyes

easy wrote: »

Shows how much you know :mad:

:rotfl:

Fgs chill! If she was going for a hospital appointment or any other drama then it would be in the question we were asked. But it wasn't. So I didn't. Is that ok with you, do you understand where I'm coming from? :rolleyes: