boss phones when i'm off sick

meerkat2007

jac29 wrote: »

Just wonder why vegankris thinks it is acceptable if you are off with mental health issues? Does vegankris know how genuine depression can affect people and remove their ability to manage what were simple tasks? I was off sick with depression after working for a govt dept for 23 years and resigned after receiving no support from my employer only what felt like harrassment. I would not wish what i went through on anyone.

I think what vegankris thinks is acceptable is getting someone else to phone in on your behalf if you have mental issues.

jac29

The point i'm making is that severe depression can make using the telephone impossible. I know that may sound odd but i was unable to use the phone for over a year........and before i became so ill at times i had to use the phone at work in a 'call centre enviroment' working within the Pension Service. I suffered much more ill effects in my life than not being able to use the phone. Maybe i'm a little too sensitive in this topic but it was lack of understanding that made me feel i had to resign.

Tiggergirl

jac29 wrote: »

The point i'm making is that severe depression can make using the telephone impossible. I know that may sound odd but i was unable to use the phone for over a year........and before i became so ill at times i had to use the phone at work in a 'call centre enviroment' working within the Pension Service. I suffered much more ill effects in my life than not being able to use the phone. Maybe i'm a little too sensitive in this topic but it was lack of understanding that made me feel i had to resign.

He said it was ACCEPTABLE to get someone else to ring in for you, not UNACCEPTABLE.

jac29

Sorry,sorry,sorry.........misread what was said. Another side effect is the inability to read things properly!!! Honestly!!! Maybe i should keep my fingers to myself 'til my brain can work properly again....doh..... :rolleyes:

surreysaver

liney wrote: »

I see. So you if you dissapear without a trace they are not to call you or write to you because it is not their right to know where the person they are paying is, instead of at work, or whether they should be filling your role?

But if you have phoned in sick, you haven't disappeared without trace. It is control freaks like you that cause these issues in the first place.

liney

surreysaver wrote: »

But if you have phoned in sick, you haven't disappeared without trace. It is control freaks like you that cause these issues in the first place.

You said that your company was not to write to you as it was harassment. Over-reacting much?

If you stated your expected length of absence then no one would feel the need to check, would they?

As i stated before, courtesy from both the employer and the employee would prevent these issues. Too many employees forget they have a duty to their employer as well as vis-versa. But if attempting to insult me makes you feel better, by all means carry on.

Volcano

liney wrote: »

If you stated your expected length of absence then no one would feel the need to check, would they?

Despite what employers may think, the majority of the UK's workforce are not medically qualified psychics.

Bogof_Babe

Once an official sick note has been received, the employer would have no need to phone the absent employee as it is a given that they will be off work for the duration of the sick note, which will be supplemented by further ones should the condition remain unimproved.

I'm pretty sure most if not all cases of mental illness would be covered by such doctors' certificates, and I would be surprised if an employer still phoned specifically to enquire abour return dates, although they might as a gesture of goodwill phone to ask how things are going.

What we are presumably discussing here is ad hoc absences, or "a sickie" in the vernacular. Now some "sickies" will be genuine, e.g. heavy cold, upset stomach, even hangover, in which case where's the harm in asking whether it is a cold (three days off) or 'flu (up to three weeks in a bad case)?

We are in danger of becoming so precious about our rights that we completely ignore our responsibilities, a primary one of which should be to whoever funds our lifestyle.

liney

Volcano wrote: »

Despite what employers may think, the majority of the UK's workforce are not medically qualified psychics.

Adults are generally able to tell whether they have a 24 hour stomach bug/dodgy curry or have prolonged chronic dioreeha. I can also tell the difference between a head cold and flu. Common sense should prevail.

vegankris

jac29 wrote: »

Sorry,sorry,sorry.........misread what was said. Another side effect is the inability to read things properly!!! Honestly!!! Maybe i should keep my fingers to myself 'til my brain can work properly again....doh..... :rolleyes:

'Tis okay, easy mistake to make, especially when depressives are so used to coming up against so much prejudice about our condition. I completely agree with you btw, the reasons you listed are exactly why I do think it should be acceptable for someone to call in our behalf.