Job center no help with training?

LittleVoice

crockpot wrote: »

Been to sign on today and when asked why I have not submitted any applications this week I informed them that I did not have the qualifications asked for.

Informed them I had spoken to local technical collage who say I can do a course in sept!

Asked if they could send me on a course? Only for basic maths and english.

Thought they were supossed to help me get skills?

If you need help with basic skills like numeracy and literacy, you shouldn't need to wait till September. Go to your local library and ask there about courses which may be available through adult education.

Contact Learnirect (http://www.learndirect.co.uk/) who will be able to tell you about free courses to get you adult literacy and numeracy certificates.

wishface

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Perhaps the Jobcentre think that people are adults rather than psychic!

Why on earth would you expect Jobcentre employees to know all the ins and outs of educational opportunities with all the local colleges and providers - that's not their job. See a Careers Adviser if you need help with that kind of information.

why on earth would you then expect people to know more than the so-called professionals.

you're very patronising; not everyone knows all the answers and just dismissing them by saying 'you're an adult do it yourself' isn't really going to help anyone. That kind of attitude says more about you than anyone else.

wishface

LittleVoice wrote: »

If you need help with basic skills like numeracy and literacy, you shouldn't need to wait till September. Go to your local library and ask there about courses which may be available through adult education.

Contact Learnirect (http://www.learndirect.co.uk/) who will be able to tell you about free courses to get you adult literacy and numeracy certificates.

The OP seems quite literate to me. Perhaps the OP is after something more useful and more substantial.

Oldernotwiser

wishface wrote: »

The OP seems quite literate to me. Perhaps the OP is after something more useful and more substantial.

Adult Literacy and Numeracy certificate are equivalent to GCSEs in English and Maths. If you don't already have qualifications at this level they can be a vital asset in finding work as many jobs are closed to people without them.

Regarding your previous post, I'm not suggesting everybody knows everything, quite the opposite. However, you go to the tax office for information on tax matters and a college or Careers Adviser for information on courses and funding. You can't expect the Jobcentre to be a "one stop shop" for information on everything!

LittleVoice

wishface wrote: »

The OP seems quite literate to me. Perhaps the OP is after something more useful and more substantial.

I was probably misled by the OP writing "Asked if they could send me on a course? Only for basic maths and english."

I assumed they wanted basic mathematics and English language courses but it would appear it was the basic maths and English which were on offer via the Jobcentre. I suppose an Adult Literacy course would have taught the use of a capital letter for the name of a language. (Then again, perhaps my comprehension needs brushing up too!)

wishface

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Regarding your previous post, I'm not suggesting everybody knows everything, quite the opposite. However, you go to the tax office for information on tax matters and a college or Careers Adviser for information on courses and funding. You can't expect the Jobcentre to be a "one stop shop" for information on everything!

Where was it ever said, hinted at or alluded to that I, or anyone else, expects the jobcentre to be exactly that? Good grief, if you can't be any less evasive or patronising then don't bother responding. It's offensive to me that, when people ask for help, they are treated in this manner instead of being offered the help they need. People don't need condescending idiots telling them what they think is right and wrong - they need the help they are seeking!

Oldernotwiser

wishface wrote: »

they need the help they are seeking!

Which is why I've bee telling people where they can get this help, rather than asking for information, incorrectly, at the Jobcentre.

wishface

you still cannot explain why it is incorrect for people to ask, when they sign on, for help with things directly related to getting a job (such as training), at the jobcentre. I would think that the most appropriate place to ask, especially when the minister in charge of the JC makes it his business to tell people thats what the DWP are offering - on pain of loss of benefits!

DCFC79

The job centre dont have the information about courses do they, you need to do that bit yourself so try the college and learndirect(cant say how much help they would be)

wishface

Being the jobcentre i would think it eminently sensible they do have this sort of knowledge. One if left wondering just what the point of the jobcentre is if they don't offer anything. After all they certainly don't help find work.