Anyone got a list of high value PB winners

martynh99

On the NSANDI website you can only view the current months high value prize winners , for previous months it's a PDF file of all winners that's about 4000 pages long.

Does anybody have the last few months high value (>£1000)winners in a text file or spreadsheet etc.

Hungerdunger

Why do you need to know?

G_M

You can check if you've won here.

martynh99

Hungerdunger wrote: »

Why do you need to know?

Curiosity, thats all - was looking at Aprils list and out of 736 winners, 485 of those were won with a £5000 bond regardless of total holding.

I know someone who's got about £16k of holding they've built up over the years so mixtures of £100 , £50, £10 bonds and they've won about £500 over 10 years. I had £30k made up of £5000 bonds and in the first month won 3 prizes totalling £550.

Wanted to look back over the last few months and see if statistically more £5000 bonds win than other bond values.

I think they probably do, hard to explain my theory but aprils numbers seem to indicate it is the case.

Reaper

Surely £5000 bonds will always win more often than £10 bonds (but as often as 500 x £10). The figures will be meaningless unless you also know the proportion £5000 bonds make up of the fund total.

martynh99

Reaper wrote: »

Surely £5000 bonds will always win more often than £10 bonds (but as often as 500 x £10). The figures will be meaningless unless you also know the proportion £5000 bonds make up of the fund total.

You'd think it would be as often as 500 *£10 bonds but if you look at the figures,

There were 2 winners from £10 bonds where the holder held >£5k total but 480 winners from £5k bonds where the holder held >£5k

In total there were
4 * £10 bond winners
22 *£50 bond winners
25 * £100 bond winners
10 * £200 bond winners
5 * £300 bond winners
8 * £400 bond winners
23 * £500 bond winners
72 * £1000 bond winners
79 * £2000 bond winners
and
485 £5000 bond winners

If you add all these up ,

485 * £5000 = £2425000

all the other winning bond values(not holdings) = £251846, almost 1 tenth of the value of the £5k holders.

My theory is along these lines, if each 1 is a 100 holding and 0 is no holding but still 100 numbers

01010001000010000001000010000010100001010010001001

That should represent 50 * £100 bonds or £5000

Assume that in one or more of the 0 (remember this represents £100 or 100 numbers) is a winner, this holder does not win whereas someone with a £5k bond has all of those 'slots' and would win however many come up as winners.
Now transpose that theory onto a £30k holding bought in one go - that I believe(i've not checked mine) would give you 30000 consecutive numbers in one long batch thus removing the '0' slots from the sequence.

Over the coming months I'll see if my theory works against my acquaintance who has loads of these random slots of numbers

greenface

martynh99 wrote: »

You'd think it would be as often as 500 *£10 bonds but if you look at the figures,

There were 2 winners from £10 bonds where the holder held >£5k total but 480 winners from £5k bonds where the holder held >£5k

In total there were
4 * £10 bond winners
22 *£50 bond winners
25 * £100 bond winners
10 * £200 bond winners
5 * £300 bond winners
8 * £400 bond winners
23 * £500 bond winners
72 * £1000 bond winners
79 * £2000 bond winners
and
485 £5000 bond winners

If you add all these up ,

485 * £5000 = £2425000

all the other winning bond values(not holdings) = £251846, almost 1 tenth of the value of the £5k holders.

My theory is along these lines, if each 1 is a 100 holding and 0 is no holding but still 100 numbers

01010001000010000001000010000010100001010010001001

That should represent 50 * £100 bonds or £5000

Assume that in one or more of the 0 (remember this represents £100 or 100 numbers) is a winner, this holder does not win whereas someone with a £5k bond has all of those 'slots' and would win however many come up as winners.
Now transpose that theory onto a £30k holding bought in one go - that I believe(i've not checked mine) would give you 30000 consecutive numbers in one long batch thus removing the '0' slots from the sequence.

Over the coming months I'll see if my theory works against my acquaintance who has loads of these random slots of numbers

bah beat me to it yaeh as above poster said

ChuckCash

But wouldn't you need to know the distribution (total number bought) of bond values for each amount in order to draw a conclusion.

For example, a £5000 bond value should be 500 times more likely to win as a £10 bond value.

So if there were exactly 500 x as many £10 bond values as £5000 bond values, then you could expect that on average, there would be 50-50 distribution of prize winners for each.

But as the prizes seem to be won by a lot of £5000 bond values, one could merely conclude that the £5000 bond values are selling quite well? Either that or the actuaries are on the take.

Fella

Hungerdunger wrote: »

Why do you need to know?

Why do you need to know?

martynh99

Mays high value winners are now listed

747 winners
481 * £5000 bonds
94 * £2000 bonds
72 * £1000 bonds
31 * £500 bonds
7 * £400 bonds
5 * £300 bonds
7 * £200 bonds
20 * £100 Bonds
28 * £50 Bonds
1 * £10 Bond
1 * £5 Bond

and the lucky £1m winner was a £5000 bond purchased Apr 2005 and the holder has £26449 total holding.

martynh99

ChuckCash wrote: »

But as the prizes seem to be won by a lot of £5000 bond values, one could merely conclude that the £5000 bond values are selling quite well?

Looks likely they are selling well.

For 18 of the May winners with a winning bond of £5000 this was their first draw they were in as they were purchased in march 2009 and of that 18 , 12 of them held >£20000 of bonds.

Looks like people are turning to PB instead of crappy interest rates at the banks.


Just checked my winning numbers from last month, I had a single £5000 bond that had 2 wins in it's range £500 & £25.

2/5 update - the same £5k bond that won twice last month has pulled in a £25 win this month too, must be a lucky one