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Lease Extension on flat with 16 years left - help please

I live in london & i'm looking at buying a studio flat, i have seen one that fits the bill, perfect location, cheaper than it should be (because only 16 years left on the lease) it is in a portered block in central london. I am looking for a rough estimate of how much it should cost to renew the lease. So i can find out whether it is a worthwhile investment. Also if anyone knows any things i should watch out for it would be much appreciated.
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  • silvercar
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    Unless you can arrange for the lease to be extended at the time you purchase, you won't be able to get a mortgage.
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  • pizzagirl
    pizzagirl Posts: 356 Forumite
    . I am looking for a rough estimate of how much it should cost to renew the lease. .
    You should ask the estate agent in the first instance.
  • suze_g
    suze_g Posts: 68 Forumite
    My seller had only 62 yrs left on her lease which she extended for £18K
  • charliee_3
    charliee_3 Posts: 803 Forumite
    wow... that will cost LOADS....
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Calculator to give you a rough idea:

    http://www.tenancy-agreements.co.uk/lease.php
  • Beardmidget
    Beardmidget Posts: 156 Forumite
    As others have said, the cost is probably going to be astronomical!

    The problem with buying on a short remaining lease is that the apparent cheapness is pretty much the market value less the cost of the extension- so you'll not be saving anything and the reality is a great big headache during the buying period.
  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,082 Forumite
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    Mmm. Central London. Central London freeholders known to be exceptionally litigious. Cash buy only and an extortionate bill for the extension, | bet.
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  • Auzelia
    Auzelia Posts: 806 Forumite
    Why do you need a lease?

    Is it the same in scotland?
  • Beardmidget
    Beardmidget Posts: 156 Forumite
    edited 26 April 2009 at 11:28PM
    Auzelia wrote: »
    Why do you need a lease?

    Is it the same in scotland?

    Not sure about scotland but for flats in England it was not possible (until a few years ago) to have multiple owners of the same plot of land, who also owned separate and discreet piece of property on that land. If you imagine a stack of five flats on a piece of land- then you will be able to imagine that each flat covers exactly the same piece of land- creating a legal problem.

    Therefore, in a block of flats it is normal for a leaseholder to retain ownership of the land and building, but to lease the individual flats to people for a long period of time (e.g. 99 years). This lease is a bit different to shorthold leases which are granted when one is renting a property but they are based around the same concept in law.

    Long leasehold offers the 'owner' of a lease (i.e. the owner of a flat) much of the same rights as owners of freehold properties- though there may be restrictions e.g. on the use of wooden flooring to reduce noise. They are also able to force an extension on their lease for a fee- which AST tenants renting a property cannot.

    Leaseholders will have to pay a small sum in rental to the freeholder (peppercorn rental- paid to avoid legal problems for the freeholder), as well as being required to pay management fees for shared areas in the building.

    Many regard leasehold property a good way of creating easy money for freeholders, hence the recent legal moves to place ownership into the hands of those actually living in this type of property.
  • Richard_Webster
    Richard_Webster Posts: 7,646 Forumite
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    edited 27 April 2009 at 8:55AM
    It is normal for a leaseholder to retain ownership of the land and building, but to lease the individual flats to people for a long period of time (e.g. 99 years).
    Leaseholders will have to pay a small sum in rental to the freeholder (peppercorn rental- paid to avoid legal problems for the freeholder),
    Can we get the terminology right?

    Leaving aside the more complicated case where there is a hierarchy of leases, in most cases it is the freeholder who grants the long leases and the person who gets that lease and "owns" the flat is a leaseholder.

    And if OP needs a mortgage he won't get one on 16 year unextended lease and if he doesn't need a mortgage it is still and exceedingly risky exercise, which could cost a lot more than he thought in the long run. I would leave well alone.
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
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