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Ask a CCCS counsellor a bankruptcy question

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  • Hello, I hope I'm doing this right. Sorry for the long post!

    I need some advice regarding an existing IVA and Bankruptcy.

    I have an IVA through Paylplan which I have signed up to for 5 years and currently have two years left of the agreement. In December the monthly payments go up to £400 a month, at the moment I am paying £255. The problem is, is that I have been out of work for 4 months and currently on Job seekers, and I just cannot get back into full time work. I am also homeless - sleeping on family couches!! I am stuck and cannot afford to pay my monthly IVA, and I have no more months left where I can skip paying. If I miss my next payment my account goes into default.

    Would I be better off just going bankrupt? Is this an option? I cannot get a job that pays enough for me to rent somewhere, living costs and keep up my IVA - which will only get worse come December.

    I am also thinking of re-training and wondered if it were at all possible to study for a degree? Bearing in mind my exisiting student loan (only £4K) is tied to my IVA. Would I be able to get a student loan again to help pay for tuition fees? My family are not able to offer any financial help.

    I'm just stuck and not sure what options are available to me. Thanks in advance for your help x
  • cp7
    cp7 Posts: 49 Forumite
    10 Posts
    i have read that these can be included in my br but i've been told by cab that they cannot. they are apparent overpayments made to me in 2003/04 193.00 and 2004/05 575.00. i would like this to be clarified if possible please?
  • CCCS_Sarah
    CCCS_Sarah Posts: 1,555 Organisation Representative
    wils3957 wrote: »
    Hi my IP went back to court to end my IVA with them in Februray 09 they sent me a report of the outcome but not sure what is now to happen will it be BR or creditors start chasing again. No one has been in touch IVA or creditors what normally happens.

    Hello,

    You would need to speak to your Insolvency Practitioner directly and see what their intentions are.

    Sarah
    I am a Debt Counsellor that works for the CCCS and have specific permission from Martin, to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on the CCCS and what it does in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article.

    CCCS is a registered charity, and there is no charge whatsoever for any of the services we provide to our clients. We take great pride in offering first class help and advice, but we only offer this where we have been able to fully explore and understand your circumstances with you. We want to help you understand these choices and their possible implications but not make them for you.
  • CCCS_Sarah
    CCCS_Sarah Posts: 1,555 Organisation Representative
    sambo1983 wrote: »
    I have recently got married, and know we are sorting our debt problems out. Been advised to write to all creditors to make token offers with the view of going bankrupt if our situation doesn't improve within 3- 6 months. My question is in regard to my name which I plan on changing. Do I change my name with the companies first then make token offers or do I leave it but then will the debt be included in the bankruptcy?

    You would need to let all your creditors know your new name, even if you were going bankrupt. Least then all your records at up to date.
    I am a Debt Counsellor that works for the CCCS and have specific permission from Martin, to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on the CCCS and what it does in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article.

    CCCS is a registered charity, and there is no charge whatsoever for any of the services we provide to our clients. We take great pride in offering first class help and advice, but we only offer this where we have been able to fully explore and understand your circumstances with you. We want to help you understand these choices and their possible implications but not make them for you.
  • Hi,

    from reading various different threads and other websites i am a bit confused as to how i become sequested.

    i have spoken to CCCS re my affairs and the best option for be is sequestion but do i have to wait for a charge of payment(have stopped paying my creditors and the phone calls have started from 8am to 9pm barclaycard being the worst) or can i just get the forms from the AiB and fill them in myself?

    (i have a jnt mtg that has around 60k neg equity)

    i would be most greatful for some advice.
  • CCCS_Alan
    CCCS_Alan Posts: 282 Organisation Representative
    noopynoo wrote: »
    Hello, I hope I'm doing this right. Sorry for the long post!

    I need some advice regarding an existing IVA and Bankruptcy.

    I have an IVA through Paylplan which I have signed up to for 5 years and currently have two years left of the agreement. In December the monthly payments go up to £400 a month, at the moment I am paying £255. The problem is, is that I have been out of work for 4 months and currently on Job seekers, and I just cannot get back into full time work. I am also homeless - sleeping on family couches!! I am stuck and cannot afford to pay my monthly IVA, and I have no more months left where I can skip paying. If I miss my next payment my account goes into default.

    Would I be better off just going bankrupt? Is this an option? I cannot get a job that pays enough for me to rent somewhere, living costs and keep up my IVA - which will only get worse come December.

    I am also thinking of re-training and wondered if it were at all possible to study for a degree? Bearing in mind my exisiting student loan (only £4K) is tied to my IVA. Would I be able to get a student loan again to help pay for tuition fees? My family are not able to offer any financial help.

    I'm just stuck and not sure what options are available to me. Thanks in advance for your help x

    Hi Noopynoo

    Unfortunately since you are still legally bound by your IVA you would need to direct your questions towards your IP about your situation, and what will happen next in your case.

    Regards a new student loan you would need to look into the qualifying criteria from the student loans company.

    Regards

    CCCS_Alan
    I am a Debt Counsellor that works for the CCCS and have specific permission from Martin, to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on the CCCS and what it does in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article.

    CCCS is a registered charity, and there is no charge whatsoever for any of the services we provide to our clients. We take great pride in offering first class help and advice, but we only offer this where we have been able to fully explore and understand your circumstances with you. We want to help you understand these choices and their possible implications but not make them for you.
  • CCCS_Alan
    CCCS_Alan Posts: 282 Organisation Representative
    cp7 wrote: »
    i have read that these can be included in my br but i've been told by cab that they cannot. they are apparent overpayments made to me in 2003/04 193.00 and 2004/05 575.00. i would like this to be clarified if possible please?

    Hi CP7

    The debts would be included. But if the benefit overpayment was joint the other person would still be liable for the debt.

    Regards

    CCCS_Alan
    I am a Debt Counsellor that works for the CCCS and have specific permission from Martin, to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on the CCCS and what it does in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article.

    CCCS is a registered charity, and there is no charge whatsoever for any of the services we provide to our clients. We take great pride in offering first class help and advice, but we only offer this where we have been able to fully explore and understand your circumstances with you. We want to help you understand these choices and their possible implications but not make them for you.
  • CCCS_Sue
    CCCS_Sue Posts: 966 Organisation Representative
    Hi,

    from reading various different threads and other websites i am a bit confused as to how i become sequested.

    i have spoken to CCCS re my affairs and the best option for be is sequestion but do i have to wait for a charge of payment(have stopped paying my creditors and the phone calls have started from 8am to 9pm barclaycard being the worst) or can i just get the forms from the AiB and fill them in myself?

    (i have a jnt mtg that has around 60k neg equity)

    i would be most greatful for some advice.

    Hi weewilliewinkie and thank you for your message

    Unless you qualify under the new LILA scheme, a petition can only be presented if you are ‘apparently insolvent’.
    You would need to provide evidence of your ‘apparent insolvency’
    ‘Apparent insolvency’ is a legal term that means you are unable to pay your debts and that at least one creditor has taken legal action against you.
    It is the pre-condition for sequestration
    A person is apparently insolvent if any of the following conditions apply:
    A charge for payment has been served and the 14 days notice has expired without payment being made.
    A summary warrant has been issued against you and there has been an attachment or attempted attachment of goods and 14 days have passed.
    A statutory demand has been served and the 21 days notice has expired but the debt has not been paid nor has the denial slip been returned.
    The revocation of a Debt Payment Program (DPP), where you had been served with a decree or summary warrant prior to the approval of their DPP, under the Debt Arrangement Scheme (DAS).

    Hope this helps

    Regards
    CCCS_Sue
    I am a CCCS Debt Counsellor and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on CCCS in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy
  • seansheep
    seansheep Posts: 15 Forumite
    Hi,
    I am looking at going BR, going to an IP this week to discuss options.

    My plan is to sell my car and buy a cheaper one for work then pay my mortgage for a couple of months with the rest of the cash to buy some time.
    But if I go BR will this bite me later even if all the excess money goes towards my mortgage.

    thanks
    Sean
  • CCCS_Sue
    CCCS_Sue Posts: 966 Organisation Representative
    edited 17 June 2009 at 2:41PM
    seansheep wrote: »
    Hi,
    I am looking at going BR, going to an IP this week to discuss options.

    My plan is to sell my car and buy a cheaper one for work then pay my mortgage for a couple of months with the rest of the cash to buy some time.
    But if I go BR will this bite me later even if all the excess money goes towards my mortgage.

    thanks
    Sean

    Hi Sean and thank you for your message

    The OR will want details of any assets that had been sold prior to your bankruptcy. They would question what the money was used for and you would possibly need to prove that it was used to pay your mortgage and get a cheaper car.
    I do not know your full situation but as a mortgage is a priority payment, I do not think it would be a problem.

    Regards

    CCCS_Sue
    I am a CCCS Debt Counsellor and have specific permission from Martin to post on these boards to try and help those in debt. Read more information on CCCS in the Debt Problems: What to do and where to get help article. If you find you're struggling with debt and you need further help try our online advice facility Debt Remedy
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